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  1. #76

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    The broadband pledge is a great example. Obviously if you want infrastructure to cover the country then you can't rely on private companies to do so willingly because enough of the network would be unprofitable to build. The two options are 1) you force them or 2) you build the network yourself as a public asset. Network built, rural communities reached and job done. Why then does the service need to be provided by the government? They have identified a need and then dragged that example to its ideological endpoint.

    I have no real issue with nationalisation but it needs to be in the interest of the public to do so and not driven by ideology alone. The majority of it meets that requirement in my opinion.

    The waspi pledge got on my nerves too. The figure they are saying appears to include almost every woman who had their pension age moved regardless of the notice they were given. This isn't costed, so what we are saying in effect is, either current working people pay for this pledge through taxation or we increase the debt and someone pays for it in the future. I am all for helping people who had the rug pulled out from beneath them and are struggling because of a poor transition but this is just vote buying pure and simple.
    Re. The Waspi promise, ok it’ll cost a lot of money but shouldn’t a few subtractions be made? What about the women who’ve passed away since the age increase? What about the extra tax and N.I. that’s been paid into the system by women who’ve had to carry on working from the age of 60 to 65? What about pension top up schemes that the women in this age group haven’t been able to claim as they aren’t now of retirement age? These women deserve it a bit more than bankers who were bailed out for much, much more than the cost of this. How much did this evil government pay to the DUP to shore them up? How much did the ridiculous referendum cost when the in or out should have been decided by people who we pay to make these vital, life changing decisions, our elected MPs? Money is wasted left, right & centre but this isn’t a waste if it’s reimbursed, it’s a moral duty by a country that has failed & conned human beings, very important to remember the people, they do matter.

  2. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    All Corbyn is doing is implementing Left Wing policies, he's not even hard left, he's what The Labour Party should stand for. Just goes to show how right wing previous Labour administrations had become if people see Corbyn as some mad Trot, he's not even close. Also, Chuka Umunna is a Tory Twat.
    He's too left for the floating voter and that's what wins elections I am afraid

    I agree with much of the manifesto and will be voting labour to keep the Tories out but I think we have a poor leader and its one of the things thats going to cost us

    Anyway come on city

  3. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    He's too left for the floating voter and that's what wins elections I am afraid

    I agree with much of the manifesto and will be voting labour to keep the Tories out but I think we have a poor leader and its one of the things thats going to cost us

    Anyway come on city
    I disagree, we have a less caring population who seem to think that paying tax towards good services that will benefit all of us is a bad idea and a society that celebrates the super rich. We have become greedy and self centred.

  4. #79

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    I would rather a shit house coward be in charge of the country than Jeremy Corbyn and John Mcdonnell. That says it all for me.

  5. #80

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    I would rather a shit house coward be in charge of the country than Jeremy Corbyn and John Mcdonnell. That says it all for me.
    Thanks for that, your endorsement should change a few minds on here.

  6. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    I would rather a shit house coward be in charge of the country than Jeremy Corbyn and John Mcdonnell. That says it all for me.
    Dear God!!

  7. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I reckon that people need to take a look at what's going on around them. People freezing to death on the streets, working people in poverty and having to use food banks,waiting lists going up due to cuts, mental health across the nation suffering, effective wage cuts for all, the sick, elderly and vulnerable not able to get the support they need due to massive budget cuts to local authorities, enforced by Westminster, young people having no chance of affordable housing, zero hour contracts where people can't plan their future as they have no idea if they're going to have any work next week. The Tories don't care about any of those people who have been screwed due to an ideology that is designed to destroy the working classes and cosy up to big business and bosses. Boris wants out of the EU because of regulation, the regulation implemented by the EU simply isn't right wing enough for him, he wants to deregulate further so that the poor end up poorer and him and his mates can exploit even more people for profit.

    Don't vote for the evil bastards
    How does what you say square with the fact that employment is currently at its highest rate (76%) since records were started to be kept in 1971. Unemployment rates are also at their lowest since about 1974 (3.8%). The economy is therefore doing rather well. Also most of the problems you outline were caused by the last Labour Government almost bankrupting the country pre 2010.

  8. #83

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    The Tories have concluded that springing Boris loose everywhere yelping ‘Get Brexit done’ will probably be enough to secure a majority. Scrutiny can only damage their chances.

  9. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    How does what you say square with the fact that employment is currently at its highest rate (76%) since records were started to be kept in 1971. Unemployment rates are also at their lowest since about 1974 (3.8%). The economy is therefore doing rather well. Also most of the problems you outline were caused by the last Labour Government almost bankrupting the country pre 2010.
    We had a worldwide economic recession and the banks crashed ......was labour responsible for the economic problems at the time in america , Canada , Germany , France etc ?

  10. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I disagree, we have a less caring population who seem to think that paying tax towards good services that will benefit all of us is a bad idea and a society that celebrates the super rich. We have become greedy and self centred.
    I agree entirely , it began with thatcher and has been a problem ever since

    The issue we have is how we get a centre left administration in to implement to turn things round

    Corbyn won't do it

  11. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    How does what you say square with the fact that employment is currently at its highest rate (76%) since records were started to be kept in 1971. Unemployment rates are also at their lowest since about 1974 (3.8%). The economy is therefore doing rather well. Also most of the problems you outline were caused by the last Labour Government almost bankrupting the country pre 2010.
    How about the current government forcing people to take poverty line jobs on zero hour contracts because they'll have their benefits cut, they are probably worse off working, have no structure and minimal working conditions, people are becoming poorer if you care to look but the stats can add up to anything that the Tory bastards want them to. The Economy usually means sweet FA to the poorest and most vulnerable, gig economy jobs that are propped up with welfare payments keep people poor, but these people are off the statistics. Good for government and good for the Businesses who employ these people.

  12. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    We had a worldwide economic recession and the banks crashed ......was labour responsible for the economic problems at the time in america , Canada , Germany , France etc ?
    No but they did preside over the bank situation here and did leave a note in 2010 saying that they had spent all the money on their reckless policies.

  13. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    No but they did preside over the bank situation here and did leave a note in 2010 saying that they had spent all the money on their reckless policies.
    New Labour were Tory, Blair would've made Thatcher Proud.

  14. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I agree entirely , it began with thatcher and has been a problem ever since

    The issue we have is how we get a centre left administration in to implement to turn things round

    Corbyn won't do it
    Corbyn wont be allowed to do it, not by the media or the Parliamentary Labour party. The members overwhelmingly say yes.

  15. #90

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Sweden is very different to the UK. For a start only 10 m people, a much smaller economy. They spend very little on police and military, most of the tax collected goes on social security, health and education. Their centre left politics ensure that social benefits etc are good but the price they pay is a tax rate of 50-60%....not just the rich...but the many.
    I don't thin k that would go down well in UK, do you?
    and 20 quid a pint

  16. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    How about the current government forcing people to take poverty line jobs on zero hour contracts because they'll have their benefits cut, they are probably worse off working, have no structure and minimal working conditions, people are becoming poorer if you care to look but the stats can add up to anything that the Tory bastards want them to. The Economy usually means sweet FA to the poorest and most vulnerable, gig economy jobs that are propped up with welfare payments keep people poor, but these people are off the statistics. Good for government and good for the Businesses who employ these people.
    Zero hour contracts came to the fore between 2004 and 2009 (I know because I was one of the people who was made redundant at the time and put onto one by my employers) so this is not a Tory invention. It was as a result of the Countries financial problems at the time, presided over by a Labour Government, with many companies struggling and large numbers of properties being repossessed. The vast majority of jobs created since 2015 have been full or part time positions and at the same time tax free allowances and national/living wage rates have been increased dramatically, so it cannot possibly be said that the Economy has been poorly run in the last nine years.

  17. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    No but they did preside over the bank situation here and did leave a note in 2010 saying that they had spent all the money on their reckless policies.
    Well one bloke left , as is tradition , a note to the incoming chancellor

    If it wasn't for gordan brown regulating the banks which your Tory lot voted against !!!!.........things would have been so much worse

  18. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well one bloke left , as is tradition , a note to the incoming chancellor

    If it wasn't for gordan brown regulating the banks which your Tory lot voted against !!!!.........things would have been so much worse
    Yes and he also sold off most of the countries gold reserves cheaply and lost us billions of pounds in the process, so he deserves a special amount of praise for that !!!

  19. #94

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    How does what you say square with the fact that employment is currently at its highest rate (76%) since records were started to be kept in 1971. Unemployment rates are also at their lowest since about 1974 (3.8%). The economy is therefore doing rather well. Also most of the problems you outline were caused by the last Labour Government almost bankrupting the country pre 2010.
    Sssh you cant say that, the financial crash didn't happen ,Ireland , Iceland and Greece didn't need bailing out , cost went up 10%, we were prepared for any crash , and austerity was not needed , and that note left by Labours Liam Byrne , which said "there's no money left" was a simple joke ,cause we had loads of dosh and quantity easing wasn't needed

  20. #95

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Re. The Waspi promise, ok it’ll cost a lot of money but shouldn’t a few subtractions be made? What about the women who’ve passed away since the age increase? What about the extra tax and N.I. that’s been paid into the system by women who’ve had to carry on working from the age of 60 to 65? What about pension top up schemes that the women in this age group haven’t been able to claim as they aren’t now of retirement age? These women deserve it a bit more than bankers who were bailed out for much, much more than the cost of this. How much did this evil government pay to the DUP to shore them up? How much did the ridiculous referendum cost when the in or out should have been decided by people who we pay to make these vital, life changing decisions, our elected MPs? Money is wasted left, right & centre but this isn’t a waste if it’s reimbursed, it’s a moral duty by a country that has failed & conned human beings, very important to remember the people, they do matter.
    You are talking my language but are you saying that everyone who had their retirement age moved should be reimbursed?

    My mum fits into the category that waspi are campaigning to help but she doesn't think she is entitled, for a start she doesn't need the money and she also feels she was given enough notice. She believes that there are people entitled to be reimbursed, but that it is far below the figure cited by waspi.

    Agree fully with the principle that money has been spent or far less worthy causes but i think in the context of other more poignant causes I don't feel this is worth saddling the next generation with having to pay for it (especially since we will likely retire at 70+ despite having a similar life expectancy...)

  21. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Zero hour contracts came to the fore between 2004 and 2009 (I know because I was one of the people who was made redundant at the time and put onto one by my employers) so this is not a Tory invention. It was as a result of the Countries financial problems at the time, presided over by a Labour Government, with many companies struggling and large numbers of properties being repossessed. The vast majority of jobs created since 2015 have been full or part time positions and at the same time tax free allowances and national/living wage rates have been increased dramatically, so it cannot possibly be said that the Economy has been poorly run in the last nine years.
    I am trying to work out if you are joking or not.

  22. #97

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well one bloke left , as is tradition , a note to the incoming chancellor

    If it wasn't for gordan brown regulating the banks which your Tory lot voted against !!!!.........things would have been so much worse
    How do you know that its my Tory lot by the way - I have voted for a number of different parties in the past but there is more chance of hell freezing over than me voting for these current ‘Labour bastards’ with their stalinist, anti-semitic, terrorist loving leader, shadow chancellor and policies designed to bankrupt the country.

  23. #98

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I am trying to work out if you are joking or not.
    Nope - sorry. Its not mandatory for all City supporters to be Socialist/Communists is it ?

  24. #99

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    He never said his dad was on average wage, he said he was a docker. Remember that was a nationalised industry and every time they wanted more money they went on strike until the government gave in to them. Once the rail water gas etc are re-nationalised it will be just like before, overmanned with no incentive to do better and if like in the south West this month, the rail men go on strike then they will be joined by the rest of the rail men all over the country, and everything will grind to a halt until the government gives in and gives them more money and we'll be back where we started and a 3 day week.

    The principle of nationalisation is fantastic but sadly the reality is the many frequently held to ransom by the few!
    Agree with that. The 3 day week brought about by miners strikes ended when they got a 35% pay rise. A year or two later they got the same again. The few holding the many to ransom

  25. #100

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Nope - sorry. Its not mandatory for all City supporters to be Socialist/Communists is it ?
    Don't be a little boy. I am just struggling to think of an economic target that the Conservatives set themselves and then subsequently hit, on time. Seems to me that it is hard to claim undeniable success when they didn't even achieve their own aims.

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