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You can't stop yourself can you?Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
All I said about pizzagate is nothing happened in the basement of that pizza parlour, it was just a distraction. It was always about Epstein and Hollywood, etc. It's also going to come out that when the mysterious "Russian spy" offered Papadopoulos the Clinton emails, he said something along the lines that it was illegal and the guy was nuts, and they then hid this exculpatory information from the court. Likewise, Flynn hasn't been prosecuted yet, and there was lots of dodgy stuff going on there too. Don't believe everything that you read in the press, or you too could end up like lardy & cyril
PS are you saying IG Horowitz is alt-right?
Flynn has been prosecuted and pleaded guilty to wilfully and knowingly making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador. He is awaiting sentencing after plea bargaining by providing information to the Mueller Investigation. His sentencing has been deferred until after the bombshell IG Report at the request of his defence. Presumably when the IG said he saw no evidence of entrapment for Papadopolous, Manafort or.....Flynn then this will be considered in his sentencing. What is definitely not happening is that he is awaiting prosecution unless you have factual evidence to the contrary?
The Mueller team have just been caught fabricating, and fraudulently altering existing evidence, so all bets are off as we are are now subject to the fruit of the poison tree. I am sure Cardiff Irish will confirm that everything these guys touched is now potentially tainted. Flynn has got himself a clever lawer who specialises in this sort of thing, so it's not over until the fat lady sings.
Can we at least agree that when you said Flynn hasn't been prosecuted yet that you were talking bollocks?
If you look into the case, his previous defence council was conflicted, and it is also claimed they threatened to prosecute his son even though they knew they didn't have the evidence to do it. The Flynn 302's may have also been doctored, so there is plenty of material for Ms Powell to work with. The IG report only looked at the Page case, not Flynn, Papadopoulos or any of the others, so I would imagine they are all getting lawyered up right now. I'd even go as far to say that the validity of the Mueller investigation could also be in doubt, depending on how the cards fall.
Would you even go as far to say that when you said Flynn has not been prosecuted that this was absolute bollocks?
Not if the case is thrown out, and if a second occurance of evidence tampering emerges, then the shit is going to hit the fan. It would be very harsh on you though, coming so soon after your beloved Steele Dossier turned out to have less value than used toilet paper.
That's what I love about these conversations. Your narcissistic behaviour where everything you say is prophetic or truthful can't cope with a simple observation that you made a fundamental error by saying the Michael Flynn, who has pleaded guilty to crimes has not yet been prosecuted. Despite the definition of prosecute as being to institute or conduct legal proceedings against (a person or organization).
So would you say on the basis of the facts that when you said that Flynn has not been prosecuted that this was absolute bollocks?
I predict this trial will result in a motion to dismiss and a clean record for General Flynn. The prosecution will be deemed illegal and scrubbed from the record. No matter how much you hate President Trump & General Flynn you lose again
There you go again.I predict this trial will result in a motion to dismiss and a clean record for General Flynn. The prosecution will be deemed illegal and scrubbed from the record. No matter how much you hate President Trump & General Flynn you lose again
It's not a trial it's a sentencing as we have already passed the structural phases of US justice that involve prosecution and the defendant pleading guilty or not guilty.
Given those facts. How would you characterise your stark statement that General Flynn has not been prosecuted? Bollocks or not-bollocks?
I believe there is a strong possibility that it is a manufactured prosecution and there will be a motion to dismiss granted involuntarily with prejudice, and you lose again. Once you start losing, its a hard habit to break
And while you are here, I would be interested to know how you got so easily duped by the hoax Steele Dossier? What made you think that any of it could be anything more than bar talk?
So he has been prosecuted rather than he hasn't. Is that what you are saying and what you were saying quite a few threads back was actually......tosh?I believe there is a strong possibility that it is a manufactured prosecution and there will be a motion to dismiss granted involuntarily with prejudice, and you lose again. Once you start losing, its a hard habit to break
And while you are here, I would be interested to know how you got so easily duped by the hoax Steele Dossier? What made you think that any of it could be anything more than bar talk?
Are you deflecting again? Sorry, but I've got some bad news for you. This is only the beginning. You'll need to up your game if your intention is to defend these crooks at every turn.
We are not pming you know. There are a lot of other people who will be able to recognise whether your statement that Michael Flynn has not been prosecuted when facts show that this is....how can I put it politely...bollocks! Still if you have anything to show from your superior intellect that this is not true now is the time to show your hand I suppose!
It's looking increasingly like a made-up case against an American war hero. For some reason only known to yourself, you continually try to besmirch his good name. Let's hope General Flynn has the last laugh, and you are proved wrong yet again!
It's not Flynn's integrity I am on about. If you had a bit of self-awareness you might have worked out it's yours!
I'm just saying your TDS is getting in the way of your reasoning. You should be like me and sit on the fence where you can enjoy a clear view of everything
Great. So from your picket can you tell whether General Flynn has been prosecuted yet?I'm just saying your TDS is getting in the way of your reasoning. You should be like me and sit on the fence where you can enjoy a clear view of everything
I'd say it's highly unlikely.
Does the suspension in the peachment process indicate cracks appearing in the case ?
But not sentenced?
If the man who is right about everything had said sentenced there would have been nothing to call him up on. We all get things wrong but most of us recognise that and move on rather than indulge in a couple of pages of obfuscation (there's that word again)!
It's looking increasingly likely that it may have been yet another frame job commited by the commie leftists who have infiltrated the highest echelons of the US government, and are hell-bent on subverting the democratic process. I'm not sure why Cyril admires these scumbags so much, but each to their own. They were willing to send an innocent man who was also a war hero to jail in order to further their warped political objectives. That should scare the life out of everybody. And yet all Cyril wants to talk about is semantics as he attempts to derail what is a very serious topic of conversation.
The man was convicted (usually follows prosecution in legal proceedings) by his own admission of guilt! We now have the IG report and statement that there is no evidence that he was entrapped to do so. You have stated copious times that your thoughts are guided by the law yet in this case when, admittedly one of Trump's handpicked men, pleads guilty to a crime you seem to be in denial that a crime has been committed!
What if the evidence was falsified and he was threatened with the jailing of his son? I get the feeling that you hate Trump and Flynn so much that you think this would be a price worth paying. You come across as being the CCMB equivalent of Peter Strzook!
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