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    Back on topic, what is everybody's prediction regarding the Ukrain based Trump impeachment trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Back on topic, what is everybody's prediction regarding the Ukrain based Trump impeachment trial?
    Whilst I think he'll get through it, if I were him I'd probably not be so confident as he appears, RINO's will always be RINO's at heart and I suspect quite a few of them have a bit that they would rather not be made public, if it were a secret ballot/vote then I think he would sink. Possibly, a few Demo's may break rank and go against Nanshi especially the ones with slim majorities in traditional republican area's, the trial is starting off Ukraine based, but will it end as Ukraine based as this IMO, is a dead duck before it has started. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Whilst I think he'll get through it, if I were him I'd probably not be so confident as he appears, RINO's will always be RINO's at heart and I suspect quite a few of them have a bit that they would rather not be made public, if it were a secret ballot/vote then I think he would sink. Possibly, a few Demo's may break rank and go against Nanshi especially the ones with slim majorities in traditional republican area's, the trial is starting off Ukraine based, but will it end as Ukraine based as this IMO, is a dead duck before it has started. ?
    I'll stick my neck out as say it's all a load of bollocks, as was the Steele Dossier, Trump Russia Collusion, Obstruction of Justice, Mueller Report & the Kavanaugh saga. The astute among us will know that my hunches are nearly always right

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    I think it's going nowhere ,this attempted impeachment is cleverly timed by the Democrats who have been seeking impeachment with a wide range of accusations, ever since Trump did a number on dodgy Clinton . (when think of it how embarrassing was that loss 🤯 )

    This could backfire on them come the next election if they haven't got it water tight, as I'm sure the Republicans are going to bring to the fore all of the failed attempts .

    Where's Stormy Daniels gone I missed her .😉😋😁

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    Well, as I pick myself up off the floor after the shock of reading those first three predictions, L'll ask is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?

    Nearly fifty years ago, a Republican President accepted that he did not have the support of all of his party and opted to resign before he was impeached. I can't help thinking that Nixon would not have had to resign today because he would have been fully supported by his party no matter what. On the other side, you get the clear feeling that the Democrats would vote en bloc for impeachment no matter how strong or weak the evidence against Trump.

    By all accounts, there is a desire for "strong leaders" these days, but I look the world over and struggle to see anything other than political pygmies who are big on bluster and intolerance or rule by fear - where America goes, others follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Well, as I pick myself up off the floor after the shock of reading those first three predictions, L'll ask is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?

    Nearly fifty years ago, a Republican President accepted that he did not have the support of all of his party and opted to resign before he was impeached. I can't help thinking that Nixon would not have had to resign today because he would have been fully supported by his party no matter what. On the other side, you get the clear feeling that the Democrats would vote en bloc for impeachment no matter how strong or weak the evidence against Trump.

    By all accounts, there is a desire for "strong leaders" these days, but I look the world over and struggle to see anything other than political pygmies who are big on bluster and intolerance or rule by fear - where America goes, others follow.
    Indeed. I gave my thoughts on the issue in another thread which seem to be playing out as predicted:

    Did Trump head a skunk squad led by his personal lawyer to discredit a Democratic candidate and pressure a foreign government into investigating his son that triggered his impeachment?..........Almost certainly.

    Will the Republican Senate, regardless of the wealth of evidence emerging including this televised "confession" remove him from office?.......Almost Certainly not.

    Will you and your ilk see the Senate's verdict as vindication of Trump, that he did absolutely nothing wrong and bleat endlessly on that this was some kind of personal triumph......100% nailed on certainty!


    One element is the sheer incompetence of the crew that Giuliani put together on this quest. It reads like a Who's Who of Gluey's go-to pundits, Giuliani, "Investigative" Reporter John Solomon, Congressman Devon Nunes and the legal tag team of Joe DiGenova and Victoria Toensing.

    Here is Joe explaining to Breitbart the obstacles that the US Embassy in the Ukraine put in the way to stop him, his wife and Giuliani from their valiant quest by denying them entry visas.

    https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020...o-frame-trump/

    and here is the Ukrainian Embassy website in the US explaining that US citizens with a valid passport have the right to visa free travel and stay for 90 days in any 180 day period!

    https://usa.mfa.gov.ua/en/consular-a...new-visa-rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not so fast pal, we don't know who all the spies are yet, and the WH was infested with them. Some of them even infiltrated the election campaign team. I'm keeping my powder dry on this one, suffice to say he must have been up to no good?
    More rumour and speculation to keep your powder dry on!

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...206604800.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Well, as I pick myself up off the floor after the shock of reading those first three predictions, L'll ask is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?

    Nearly fifty years ago, a Republican President accepted that he did not have the support of all of his party and opted to resign before he was impeached. I can't help thinking that Nixon would not have had to resign today because he would have been fully supported by his party no matter what. On the other side, you get the clear feeling that the Democrats would vote en bloc for impeachment no matter how strong or weak the evidence against Trump.

    By all accounts, there is a desire for "strong leaders" these days, but I look the world over and struggle to see anything other than political pygmies who are big on bluster and intolerance or rule by fear - where America goes, others follow.
    My hunch was based on available evidence, not a senate majority, although I am sure there a few RINO members who would love to get rid of the president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    More rumour and speculation to keep your powder dry on!

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...206604800.html
    He's had zipper problems since the Obama years. No doubt whatever is happening now is going to have some political impact, as the timing is just too good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    He's had zipper problems since the Obama years. No doubt whatever is happening now is going to have some political impact, as the timing is just too good.
    Seems like you can't even quote your go-to site correctly. Even the CTH didn't say this but spookily used the same phrase as you "zipper problem" in relation to the guy Peek worked for in Iraq.

    Allen, a four-star Marine general, succeeded Petraeus as the top American commander in Afghanistan in July 2011; but General John Allen had a serious zipper problem. Allen retired in 2012 when his sexual proclivities surfaced.

    However, Obama brought him back when he needed a General he could control in 2014. Allen’s 2012 zipper problem became Obama’s 2014 political leverage to use General Allen as a tool to present the image of Obama’s faux fight against ISIS.


    I guess the White House marched him off the premises now to maximise the political impact.

    Now's the chance to post the evidence that Peek had a "zipper problem" going back to the Obama years I guess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Well, as I pick myself up off the floor after the shock of reading those first three predictions, L'll ask is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?

    Nearly fifty years ago, a Republican President accepted that he did not have the support of all of his party and opted to resign before he was impeached. I can't help thinking that Nixon would not have had to resign today because he would have been fully supported by his party no matter what. On the other side, you get the clear feeling that the Democrats would vote en bloc for impeachment no matter how strong or weak the evidence against Trump.

    By all accounts, there is a desire for "strong leaders" these days, but I look the world over and struggle to see anything other than political pygmies who are big on bluster and intolerance or rule by fear - where America goes, others follow.
    @Iis anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?@

    No why would they .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate? No
    It might come as a bit of a shock to you but he has been impeached!!

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    Rudy speaks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    It might come as a bit of a shock to you but he has been impeached!!
    you know what I mean ,actual impeached by the senate ,read what TOBW wrote

    is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?


    My reply No

    Hope the use of large font and colours help you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Seems like you can't even quote your go-to site correctly. Even the CTH didn't say this but spookily used the same phrase as you "zipper problem" in relation to the guy Peek worked for in Iraq.

    Allen, a four-star Marine general, succeeded Petraeus as the top American commander in Afghanistan in July 2011; but General John Allen had a serious zipper problem. Allen retired in 2012 when his sexual proclivities surfaced.

    However, Obama brought him back when he needed a General he could control in 2014. Allen’s 2012 zipper problem became Obama’s 2014 political leverage to use General Allen as a tool to present the image of Obama’s faux fight against ISIS.


    I guess the White House marched him off the premises now to maximise the political impact.

    Now's the chance to post the evidence that Peek had a "zipper problem" going back to the Obama years I guess!
    Ouch. I don't think he can "Trump Russia Collusion, Steele Dossier...." his way out of that one.

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    [QUOTE=Wales-Bales;5040600]Rudy speaks!

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...by-lev-parnas/

    We know. Misled ffs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    you know what I mean ,actual impeached by the senate ,read what TOBW wrote

    is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?


    My reply No

    Hope the use of large font and colours help you .
    To be fair if I knew what you meant it would probably be a first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Rudy speaks!


    Good listen rare to hear form him .

    Is Rudi right they don't investigate Democrats , surely someone has that fact to hand ??

    Can't wait for his Ukraine/Iraq podcasts, that will allegedly give us the real evidence releases .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Stick to the topic mate, and cut out the obfuscation and constant diversions. Your obsessive nature is ruining the politics message board, even though it is quite amusing that you are trying to discredit the site that destroyed all of your Russian Collusion BS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Stick to the topic mate, and cut out the obfuscation and constant diversions. Your obsessive nature is ruining the politics message board, even though it is quite amusing that you are trying to discredit the site that destroyed all of your Russian Collusion BS!
    Better your usual template response than deal with your zipper problem I guess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    To be fair if I knew what you meant it would probably be a first!
    It does seem your have too much time on your hands, your TDS has consumed you , you need an awayday or a hobby ,its no good turning into an old moaning fella you see in these comedy sketch shoes ,got off the computer chair ,put away your jelly babies and get out and about .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Better your usual template response than deal with your zipper problem I guess!
    Seriously mate, stick to discussing the topic at hand, and stop trying to discredit other posters and sources of information that conflict with your CNN view of the world, as it makes you look like a right kent! As you well know, the CTH obliterated your credibility and you are now discrediting them?? You couldn't make this shit up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    It does seem your have too much time on your hands, your TDS has consumed you , you need an awayday or a hobby ,its no good turning into an old moaning fella you see in these comedy sketch shoes ,got off the computer chair ,put away your jelly babies and get out and about .
    I know you have boasted that you are a wind up merchant but in truth you aren't very good at it. I particularly liked being lectured to get off the computer chair by someone with over 13k posts to their name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Ouch. I don't think he can "Trump Russia Collusion, Steele Dossier...." his way out of that one.
    He's giving it a go fair play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Back on topic, what is everybody's prediction regarding the Ukrain based Trump impeachment trial?
    I think both sides will ignore the evidence and the oath they took last week and vote along party lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    @Iis anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?@

    No why would they .
    All senators took an oath last week to be impartial. If the evidence suggests he's guilty then both parties should convict and the reverse is also true.

    They'll just ignore their oath though.

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    Mr Schiff getting shredded again! I think this trial may get brutal at some stage, Trump has brought the A-Team with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    @Iis anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?@

    No why would they .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Mr Schiff getting shredded again! I think this trial may get brutal at some stage, Trump has brought the A-Team with him

    These lawyers are so switched on, and yes brutal, if the facts are not cemented down you've had it , your toast ,could arrests follow if some of these accusations are unfounded ??

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