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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It's on page 32 of the Trump thread, post 950.
    Thanks, just found it. I don't think I started looking at the politics board properly until after that. I could be wrong though.

    What a complete shitshow those posts are. The Sandy Hook stuff he posted a page or two later is new to me too. What a lovely human being he is.

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    Haha, carry on with all your nonsense, cos you lot haven't got anything to say for yourselves, you can only talk about other people. You are like a bunch of old woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Haha, carry on with all your nonsense, cos you lot haven't got anything to say for yourselves, you can only talk about other people. You are like a bunch of old woman
    With way too much time on thier hands , and becomming very bitter by the day , I bet they report the postman for not closing the gate.

    Its noticeable since the election defeat, its got more futile and childlike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    With way too much time on thier hands , and becomming very bitter by the day , I bet they report the postman for not closing the gate.

    Its noticeable since the election defeat, its got more futile and childlike.
    He bit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    With way too much time on thier hands , and becomming very bitter by the day , I bet they report the postman for not closing the gate.

    Its noticeable since the election defeat, its got more futile and childlike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Interesting development.

    Purely by coincidence as well as the Bloomberg hack who tweeted something that was all over news outlets the Conservative Treehouse had their own take on it. In this version Peek was part of a Deep State Resistance team because he worked for General Adams, who once shared a stage with Barack Obama. They speculate that this "mole" may be the person passing intelligence to Adam Schiff that the White House has been withholding material evidence pertinent to the impeachment trial. It's not their strongest bit of work suggesting that he was spilling the beans on this I guess.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...investigation/

    For some bizarre reason the CTH failed to mention that he was part of Trump's transition team and was seen on appointment to his previous role on Iran and Iraq as a Trump loyalist and former Kushner employee who would do his bidding on Iran. But I guess you knew that from your research of source material you always do before posting this kind of false trail.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/08...e-house-trump/

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Interesting development.

    Purely by coincidence as well as the Bloomberg hack who tweeted something that was all over news outlets the Conservative Treehouse had their own take on it. In this version Peek was part of a Deep State Resistance team because he worked for General Adams, who once shared a stage with Barack Obama. They speculate that this "mole" may be the person passing intelligence to Adam Schiff that the White House has been withholding material evidence pertinent to the impeachment trial. It's not their strongest bit of work suggesting that he was spilling the beans on this I guess.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...investigation/

    For some bizarre reason the CTH failed to mention that he was part of Trump's transition team and was seen on appointment to his previous role on Iran and Iraq as a Trump loyalist and former Kushner employee who would do his bidding on Iran. But I guess you knew that from your research of source material you always do before posting this kind of false trail.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/08...e-house-trump/
    Not so fast pal, we don't know who all the spies are yet, and the WH was infested with them. Some of them even infiltrated the election campaign team. I'm keeping my powder dry on this one, suffice to say he must have been up to no good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not so fast pal, we don't know who all the spies are yet, and the WH was infested with them. Some of them even infiltrated the election campaign team. I'm keeping my powder dry on this one, suffice to say he must have been up to no good?
    On the one statement of fact you made. Who are the spies that infiltrated the Trump Election campaign team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    On the one statement of fact you made. Who are the spies that infiltrated the Trump Election campaign team?
    They wouldn't be active if their identities were known, but Trump has been surrounded by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not so fast pal, we don't know who all the spies are yet, and the WH was infested with them. Some of them even infiltrated the election campaign team. I'm keeping my powder dry on this one, suffice to say he must have been up to no good?
    More rumour and speculation to keep your powder dry on!

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...206604800.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    More rumour and speculation to keep your powder dry on!

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...206604800.html
    He's had zipper problems since the Obama years. No doubt whatever is happening now is going to have some political impact, as the timing is just too good.

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    Bloody corrupt lot those Ukrainians if you ask me .

    Why would anyone want to do business with them is a little worrying , if were allowed to say that ?

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    Back on topic, what is everybody's prediction regarding the Ukrain based Trump impeachment trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Back on topic, what is everybody's prediction regarding the Ukrain based Trump impeachment trial?
    Whilst I think he'll get through it, if I were him I'd probably not be so confident as he appears, RINO's will always be RINO's at heart and I suspect quite a few of them have a bit that they would rather not be made public, if it were a secret ballot/vote then I think he would sink. Possibly, a few Demo's may break rank and go against Nanshi especially the ones with slim majorities in traditional republican area's, the trial is starting off Ukraine based, but will it end as Ukraine based as this IMO, is a dead duck before it has started. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Whilst I think he'll get through it, if I were him I'd probably not be so confident as he appears, RINO's will always be RINO's at heart and I suspect quite a few of them have a bit that they would rather not be made public, if it were a secret ballot/vote then I think he would sink. Possibly, a few Demo's may break rank and go against Nanshi especially the ones with slim majorities in traditional republican area's, the trial is starting off Ukraine based, but will it end as Ukraine based as this IMO, is a dead duck before it has started. ?
    I'll stick my neck out as say it's all a load of bollocks, as was the Steele Dossier, Trump Russia Collusion, Obstruction of Justice, Mueller Report & the Kavanaugh saga. The astute among us will know that my hunches are nearly always right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Back on topic, what is everybody's prediction regarding the Ukrain based Trump impeachment trial?
    I think both sides will ignore the evidence and the oath they took last week and vote along party lines.

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    I think it's going nowhere ,this attempted impeachment is cleverly timed by the Democrats who have been seeking impeachment with a wide range of accusations, ever since Trump did a number on dodgy Clinton . (when think of it how embarrassing was that loss 🤯 )

    This could backfire on them come the next election if they haven't got it water tight, as I'm sure the Republicans are going to bring to the fore all of the failed attempts .

    Where's Stormy Daniels gone I missed her .😉😋😁

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    Well, as I pick myself up off the floor after the shock of reading those first three predictions, L'll ask is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?

    Nearly fifty years ago, a Republican President accepted that he did not have the support of all of his party and opted to resign before he was impeached. I can't help thinking that Nixon would not have had to resign today because he would have been fully supported by his party no matter what. On the other side, you get the clear feeling that the Democrats would vote en bloc for impeachment no matter how strong or weak the evidence against Trump.

    By all accounts, there is a desire for "strong leaders" these days, but I look the world over and struggle to see anything other than political pygmies who are big on bluster and intolerance or rule by fear - where America goes, others follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Well, as I pick myself up off the floor after the shock of reading those first three predictions, L'll ask is anyone seriously expecting Trump to be impeached given the Republican majority in the Senate?

    Nearly fifty years ago, a Republican President accepted that he did not have the support of all of his party and opted to resign before he was impeached. I can't help thinking that Nixon would not have had to resign today because he would have been fully supported by his party no matter what. On the other side, you get the clear feeling that the Democrats would vote en bloc for impeachment no matter how strong or weak the evidence against Trump.

    By all accounts, there is a desire for "strong leaders" these days, but I look the world over and struggle to see anything other than political pygmies who are big on bluster and intolerance or rule by fear - where America goes, others follow.
    Indeed. I gave my thoughts on the issue in another thread which seem to be playing out as predicted:

    Did Trump head a skunk squad led by his personal lawyer to discredit a Democratic candidate and pressure a foreign government into investigating his son that triggered his impeachment?..........Almost certainly.

    Will the Republican Senate, regardless of the wealth of evidence emerging including this televised "confession" remove him from office?.......Almost Certainly not.

    Will you and your ilk see the Senate's verdict as vindication of Trump, that he did absolutely nothing wrong and bleat endlessly on that this was some kind of personal triumph......100% nailed on certainty!


    One element is the sheer incompetence of the crew that Giuliani put together on this quest. It reads like a Who's Who of Gluey's go-to pundits, Giuliani, "Investigative" Reporter John Solomon, Congressman Devon Nunes and the legal tag team of Joe DiGenova and Victoria Toensing.

    Here is Joe explaining to Breitbart the obstacles that the US Embassy in the Ukraine put in the way to stop him, his wife and Giuliani from their valiant quest by denying them entry visas.

    https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020...o-frame-trump/

    and here is the Ukrainian Embassy website in the US explaining that US citizens with a valid passport have the right to visa free travel and stay for 90 days in any 180 day period!

    https://usa.mfa.gov.ua/en/consular-a...new-visa-rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Indeed. I gave my thoughts on the issue in another thread which seem to be playing out as predicted:

    Did Trump head a skunk squad led by his personal lawyer to discredit a Democratic candidate and pressure a foreign government into investigating his son that triggered his impeachment?..........Almost certainly.

    Will the Republican Senate, regardless of the wealth of evidence emerging including this televised "confession" remove him from office?.......Almost Certainly not.

    Will you and your ilk see the Senate's verdict as vindication of Trump, that he did absolutely nothing wrong and bleat endlessly on that this was some kind of personal triumph......100% nailed on certainty!



    Easiest bet you'll win all season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Easiest bet you'll win all season.
    Says the bloke who swallowed the Steele Dossier nonsense hook, line and sinker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Indeed. I gave my thoughts on the issue in another thread which seem to be playing out as predicted:

    Did Trump head a skunk squad led by his personal lawyer to discredit a Democratic candidate and pressure a foreign government into investigating his son that triggered his impeachment?..........Almost certainly.

    Will the Republican Senate, regardless of the wealth of evidence emerging including this televised "confession" remove him from office?.......Almost Certainly not.

    Will you and your ilk see the Senate's verdict as vindication of Trump, that he did absolutely nothing wrong and bleat endlessly on that this was some kind of personal triumph......100% nailed on certainty!
    An interesting take from the blogger who outsmarted the worlds media regarding the Russia Collusion hoax, not to mention a few posters on here including you and lardy.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...achment-flaws/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    An interesting take from the blogger who outsmarted the worlds media regarding the Russia Collusion hoax, not to mention a few posters on here including you and lardy.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...achment-flaws/
    This argument has played elsewhere along with the stonewalling from Trump administration and lawyers for not answering subpoenas because of Executive Privilege, Presidential immunity and the absence of a White House lawyer at any hearing.

    Now if you had any degree of scepticism of this you would be asking why all the effort to stop All The President's Men lining up under oath to declare how innocent he is and what a crock of shit the charges are. Then rather than seeing it as the trial being a stitch up behind closed doors you could go in triumph to the American people saying it's plain to everyone that those Dems did their worst and still the facts and evidence bore out that there was nothing to see.

    But you haven't...so you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    This argument has played elsewhere along with the stonewalling from Trump administration and lawyers for not answering subpoenas because of Executive Privilege, Presidential immunity and the absence of a White House lawyer at any hearing.

    Now if you had any degree of scepticism of this you would be asking why all the effort to stop All The President's Men lining up under oath to declare how innocent he is and what a crock of shit the charges are. Then rather than seeing it as the trial being a stitch up behind closed doors you could go in triumph to the American people saying it's plain to everyone that those Dems did their worst and still the facts and evidence bore out that there was nothing to see.

    But you haven't...so you don't.
    Don't get me involved in your little spat with the Treehouse, this is between you and them, last man standing, etc.. However, his premise is that the entire thing has been scripted, with traps set all over the place, hence the the non-compliance to avoid being ensnared.

    I'll be watching from the sidelines, but it helps to know what each side is up to. K.O. is at 6PM

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