VAR

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It may be a positive that refs are shielded now from abuse because VAR is being used so accurately and frustratingly. Hudreds of refs seem to be dropping out of the game at lower levels where it's not in place so either greater appreciation for those doing that tough job or something else to take the criticism may be a big positive.

[NYCBlue]

Referee clearly impeded Sheffield United player and ball rebounds to City who score ! Why haven’t they overruled that ?

Because the ref didn't touch the ball. It's not VAR that's the problem, it's the rules.

[Wales-Bales]

It may be a positive that refs are shielded now from abuse because VAR is being used so accurately and frustratingly. Hudreds of refs seem to be dropping out of the game at lower levels where it's not in place so either greater appreciation for those doing that tough job or something else to take the criticism may be a big positive.

I'm not sure of the origins, but in the Bundesliga the referee can check the pitch-side VAR monitor.

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The worst thing about the Wolves goal decision for me was that none of the Liverpool players I saw was appealing. They Knew they hadd fecked up! The Ref had warded the goal so why did VAR get involved in the first place?

If the referee asks for a second opinion or if 1 captain asks then OK but in this instant no one asked, so why foes VAR get involved?
It should be like rugby or cricket, if the referee gives a clear decision it stands, as it would have done today - - no argument from Liverpool.
If the Ref is unsure or one of the captains appeal then go to VAR. It is supposed to be an aide not an overriding decider.

[Seabird]

If it takes more than one viewing it is not "clear and obvious" simple as that.

[jeepster]

The worst thing about the Wolves goal decision for me was that none of the Liverpool players I saw was appealing. They Knew they hadd fecked up! The Ref had warded the goal so why did VAR get involved in the first place?

If the referee asks for a second opinion or if 1 captain asks then OK but in this instant no one asked, so why foes VAR get involved?
It should be like rugby or cricket, if the referee gives a clear decision it stands, as it would have done today - - no argument from Liverpool.
If the Ref is unsure or one of the captains appeal then go to VAR. It is supposed to be an aide not an overriding decider.

This is so correct.

[Tuerto]

Maybe this goes to show what a difficult job Referees and their assistants have had in making decisions for offside and plenty of other incidents. This is what people seemed to have wanted though, football fans crying on radio phone ins, celebrity managers berating the officials after a game like they'd tried to kidnap one of their kids, the blowhards have won the day, and now what we're seeing is zero interpretation over the offside rule, moments of brilliance wiped out because of a couple of millimetres. Entitled football fans, the media, players who have intimidated officials and managers and pundits who have sanctioned that type of behaviour have got what they wanted. In football you win some decisions and you lose some, that's it.

[Optimistic Nick]

If it takes more than one viewing it is not "clear and obvious" simple as that.

This

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This might help if it happens:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50944416

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Maybe this goes to show what a difficult job Referees and their assistants have had in making decisions for offside and plenty of other incidents. This is what people seemed to have wanted though, football fans crying on radio phone ins, celebrity managers berating the officials after a game like they'd tried to kidnap one of their kids, the blowhards have won the day, and now what we're seeing is zero interpretation over the offside rule, moments of brilliance wiped out because of a couple of millimetres. Entitled football fans, the media, players who have intimidated officials and managers and pundits who have sanctioned that type of behaviour have got what they wanted. In football you win some decisions and you lose some, that's it.

VAR became the answer to every bad call in football based on the perception of it being successful in other sports without looking any deeper to see what had made it work, where it didn't work and how it could apply to our football. We're now in an experimental period which would have, and should have been, far shorter if those questions were asked before it was introduced. Lazy, lazy football pundits in the media helped lead to this.