I think he agrees with that but is also saying that this is a classic case of unintended consequences!Originally Posted by life on mars
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I think he agrees with that but is also saying that this is a classic case of unintended consequences!
I though he was in the process of getting even more blood on his hands, as he was planning further attacks. Some people seem to think that more Americans should die in order to appease the Iran.
Have you seen evidence of that?
I get that , however we have to make a choice with Iran, its either the appeasement approach shown by previous president's, or Trump's direct action approach, lets not fool ourselves Iran isn't a friend, and has some very nasty agenda's that we could ignore at our peril.
No, he's dead thank god.
He has a nasty history ,which would suggest his plans were never going to be friendly. In as much Trump is a loop and dangerous this man is happy to organise killing, especially in other countries.
You have a choice believe western intelligence or Iran's ( the country that was in denial about downing an aircraft, refusing to allow access to its black box, and sweeping clean the crash site)
This has been going on for decades, they are an horrible bunch.
Now that explains a lot. You really believe that is our only choice? WalesBales, do you agree with that?
Trump acted on Intel from a multitude of agencies both domestic and foreign. Do you think he should have told them all to get fecked? The outcome would have been the same anyway, it would still be all his fault even if he gave Iran a free pass. This TDS stuff is getting batshit crazy!
Yes I do , the man has caused more death that should be tolerated , as did like Bin Laden, although I recall when Obama and Clinton watched the Bin Laden hit the rhetoric wasn't as strong , at yes Clinton failed to act long befroe that .
The Obama administration sanctioned Soleimani in 2011 as a terrorist from the same Intel as Trump acted upon .
These people were awful murders , and we will never really know the extent of their killing spree in the name of their ideologies or religion or country .
Trump acted ,and yes he's bat shit crazy, not really a nice person , but the terrorists are far more evil ,you can get rid of loops like Trump and we will , sadly ,the only thing that fixes and stops these terrorists is force , as democracy and diplomacy to remove or stop doesn't exist or work in their world.
Trump didn't do a very good job of relaying this intelligence when he said 'I can reveal that I believe it probably would've been four embassies'.
Do you think we have the simple choice to either believe the Iranians or the Americans like LOM or do you disagree with him?
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-...ran-planned-to
Pentagon chief says he 'didn't see' intelligence suggesting Iran planned to attack four US embassies
This is the intel that we keep hearing about from the experts on here. The Secretary of Defence - I repeat - THE SECRETARY OF DEFENCE says that he didn't see any intelligence about attacks on embassies, but Trump said that there "probably" "could" have been attacks... and that's now enough proof to order a strike on a foreign target and send troops to the Middle East (the region that the resident Trumpists praised him for removing troops from a few months ago when he stabbed the Kurds in the back in order to suck up to Turkey).“What the president said was he believed there probably and could've been attacks against additional embassies. I shared that view. I know other members of the national security team shared that view. That’s why I deployed thousands of American paratroopers to the Middle East to reinforce our embassy in Baghdad and other sites throughout the region,” Esper said.
He added that Trump did not cite a “specific piece of evidence.”
“Are you saying there wasn't one?” host Margaret Brennan asked.
“I didn't see one with regard to four embassies,” Esper responded. “What I’m saying is I share the president's view.”
In the words of our resident nutter... this is just the beginning. Get ready for the real show.
#BREAKING: Reports: British ambassador in Tehran arrested tonight while photographing the protests against the downing of the Ukrainian plane
— Amichai Stein (@AmichaiStein1) January 11, 2020
I can't believe some people on here are supporting Iran over NATO.
I think you are misunderstanding the question because none of what you have written relates to it. I'll try one last time just for confirmation.
Do you believe that the only choice we have is whether to believe exactly the American version of events or exactly the Iranian version of events?
Who is 'supporting' Iran and what do you even mean by that?
He thinks any word against Trump means you're a fully paid up supporter of whoever Trump happen to be arguing with.
That's why he, ridiculously, calls those on here who criticise trump democrats.
Says our resident Mr Russian Collusion expert! Sorry mate, I can't take you seriously anymore. Even after it was pointed out in minute detail how and why you were wrong, you still continued with your fake news crap right up until very recently!
The dude was a bad geezer and they took him out because he was planning more bad stuff. Why are you even trying to make a case for him and Iran? They beat the shit out of any protesters over there and lock them up. Free the Iranians!
Where have I tried to make a case for Iran or 'him'?
So what's the problem then? president Trump is trying to lead the way for the overwhelming majority of Iranian citizens to lead normal lives. Why exactly is that getting your back up?
All I asked you was if you had seen any evidence that these attacks were being planned, you didn't answer and then decided that I was an 'iran supporter'. The reason I asked was because trump didn't seem too sure himself, using the word 'probably'. I got the impression that you consider yourself analytical, but there is little evidence of that in this thread so far.
Well the intel came from western intelligence agencies, so I suppose it would all depend on how highly you rate their analytical skills, and subsequent recommendations.
The squad on here do not want the people of IRAN to get back to when women walked about freely in clothes that let their beauty speak for themselves, they love to see them oppressed and having little value in their society, the protests are gaining in numbers but you know that a mass killing of demonstrators is just around the corner. Libya, Syria, Iran, IRAQ, totally destroyed by DS controlled America, Bush's Clinton's Obama's with 100% support of the complicit media.
WB, end of season message board awards, which one of the CCMB squad gets it?
I've read my copy and its still in good nick, will be FOC
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You guys are quickly proving you have nothing to say. Stop playing the man and go for the ball instead, this whole 'squad' thing is a little bit pathetic.
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