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Thread: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

  1. #1

    Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Chelsea will lend him out again only if the borrowing club pay his his full £110,000 per week wages Wonder what he was on when we did have him down here? Classic case of a footballer making a fortune for doing bugger all, over £1million gross every ten weeks, Jesus wept!!

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Chelsea will lend him out again only if the borrowing club pay his his full £110,000 per week wages Wonder what he was on when we did have him down here? Classic case of a footballer making a fortune for doing bugger all, over £1million gross every ten weeks, Jesus wept!!
    That's why football is shit

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Chelsea will lend him out again only if the borrowing club pay his his full £110,000 per week wages Wonder what he was on when we did have him down here? Classic case of a footballer making a fortune for doing bugger all, over £1million gross every ten weeks, Jesus wept!!
    Insane amount of money. Absolutely insane. Football needs to fail and reset, it's just obscene.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    Insane amount of money. Absolutely insane. Football needs to fail and reset, it's just obscene.
    I can't believe he's on 110 grand a week-surely not?

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I can't believe he's on 110 grand a week-surely not?
    I have no idea why players' salaries become assumed matters of fact available to the public so you could well be correct. But if so.... then seriously, I want to see the premier league go pop. That is just bonkers. That's a decent annual salary, never mind weekly!

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I can't believe he's on 110 grand a week-surely not?
    Just read it on the BBC Sports website, crazy, isn’t it.

  7. #7

    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    I have no idea why players' salaries become assumed matters of fact available to the public so you could well be correct. But if so.... then seriously, I want to see the premier league go pop. That is just bonkers. That's a decent annual salary, never mind weekly!
    I’m not for a second justifying they need these sorts of salaries, but how many “normal” jobs would go if the PL went pop?

  8. #8

    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    When Leicester won the Premier League in 2015/16, Drinkwater started more games for Leicester than N'Golo Kante. Sadly for him, his career has gone downhill since his move to Chelsea. His wages may seem ridiculous, but I wonder what the likes of Kante, Mahrez and Vardy are earning these days? Bear in mind he was awarded this contract by Chelsea in 2017.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    When Leicester won the Premier League in 2015/16, Drinkwater started more games for Leicester than N'Golo Kante. Sadly for him, his career has gone downhill since his move to Chelsea. His wages may seem ridiculous, but I wonder what the likes of Kante, Mahrez and Vardy are earning these days? Bear in mind he was awarded this contract by Chelsea in 2017.
    Careful, you’ll have people thinking you’re suggesting DD is better than Kante.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Careful, you’ll have people thinking you’re suggesting DD is better than Kante.
    To be honest, I'm past caring.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    To be honest, I'm past caring.
    I know, but still, they’ll come.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Had a chat down pub earlier about football wages, I played devils advocate and tried to make arguments to justify it.

    - The money exists, so capping wages would not free up money for supporters just produce higher profit margins for Owners, Directors and broadcasting companies.

    - Is it not a good thing that players can command figures such as 80% of clubs revenue, keeps at least some of the money away from the billionaire owners and CEO's, the already rich, who also happen to be the people who know how to hide money/ avoid taxes ect.

    - the fast majority of players come from poor/working class families, it is the politics of aspiration working at its very best, players like Bale, Ramsey, humble family background, who lift their families and friends up with them.

    - Trickle down economics, proven now to not work because as touched on before billionaires like to horde money and are clever in keeping it. Footballers however are an economists dream, they blow most of their money as they get it on high rents, luxury cars, expensive clothes and fancy meals and in Casinos (which is taxed). 'Most' also are pretty good tax payers. salaries are pretty much public knowledge so impossible to really hide their earnings. And as role models the backlash is not really worth it, like how it soured Messi for some.

    - Remember they still make less money than many CEO's,investment bankers, pop stars and Hollywood actors. for me personally footballers enrich my life more than any of the previous

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    Insane amount of money. Absolutely insane. Football needs to fail and reset, it's just obscene.
    Why? Most sports are like this, even actors the top actors will get paid tens of millions (not suggesting DD is a top level football player! but he does play for one of the biggest clubs in the world). There only seems to be a problem when it comes to footballers rather than other professions

    Don't even take a peak at NBA contracts otherwise you'd have an aneurysm

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue View Post
    Why? Most sports are like this, even actors the top actors will get paid tens of millions (not suggesting DD is a top level football player! but he does play for one of the biggest clubs in the world). There only seems to be a problem when it comes to footballers rather than other professions

    Don't even take a peak at NBA contracts otherwise you'd have an aneurysm
    Add NFL NHL MLB.

    Top end boxing, UFC.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue View Post
    Why? Most sports are like this, even actors the top actors will get paid tens of millions (not suggesting DD is a top level football player! but he does play for one of the biggest clubs in the world). There only seems to be a problem when it comes to footballers rather than other professions

    Don't even take a peak at NBA contracts otherwise you'd have an aneurysm
    Might be something to do with the fact that alot of footballers come from poor or working class backgrounds, that doesn't sit too well with some people.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Chelsea will lend him out again only if the borrowing club pay his his full £110,000 per week wages Wonder what he was on when we did have him down here? Classic case of a footballer making a fortune for doing bugger all, over £1million gross every ten weeks, Jesus wept!!

    Pathetic £110,000 per week , I'm shocked there's not been a fans backlash within the game from folk who would need to work for 4 /5 years to earn one weeks value of that mans salary .

  17. #17

    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    Had a chat down pub earlier about football wages, I played devils advocate and tried to make arguments to justify it.

    - The money exists, so capping wages would not free up money for supporters just produce higher profit margins for Owners, Directors and broadcasting companies.

    - Is it not a good thing that players can command figures such as 80% of clubs revenue, keeps at least some of the money away from the billionaire owners and CEO's, the already rich, who also happen to be the people who know how to hide money/ avoid taxes ect.

    - the fast majority of players come from poor/working class families, it is the politics of aspiration working at its very best, players like Bale, Ramsey, humble family background, who lift their families and friends up with them.

    - Trickle down economics, proven now to not work because as touched on before billionaires like to horde money and are clever in keeping it. Footballers however are an economists dream, they blow most of their money as they get it on high rents, luxury cars, expensive clothes and fancy meals and in Casinos (which is taxed). 'Most' also are pretty good tax payers. salaries are pretty much public knowledge so impossible to really hide their earnings. And as role models the backlash is not really worth it, like how it soured Messi for some.

    - Remember they still make less money than many CEO's,investment bankers, pop stars and Hollywood actors. for me personally footballers enrich my life more than any of the previous
    I broadly agree with these arguments. I'm not a fan of bashing footballers for their wages.

    The money is there. It's far better that it goes to the players than is creamed off by shareholders and CEOs.

    The issue should be where has the money come from. It's from fans worldwide who are paying more than they should to watch the games (mostly TV money as ticket money is small fry compared to that). Follow this and you'll find who to blame. It's not Danny Drinkwater.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Add NFL NHL MLB.

    Top end boxing, UFC.
    And F1

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Pathetic £110,000 per week , I'm shocked there's not been a fans backlash within the game from folk who would need to work for 4 /5 years to earn one weeks value of that mans salary .
    The same folk that buy overpriced products daily from companies owned by people MUCH MUCH richer than any footballer?

    Ah yes, let’s go nuts because some footballer earns millions and ignore the fact we buy off multi billionaires multiple times a year.


    Zzzz

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Add NFL NHL MLB.

    Top end boxing, UFC.
    Ive no issues with nfl salaries. I have no idea about the others. Llamdaff blue answered his own question. That a club like man city can spend that on a reserve player is why football is ****ed. The nfl has a built in mechanism to attempt to even things out and create a level playing field. That drinkwater gets paid that much just proves how much money has perverted the notion of a fair competition

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I broadly agree with these arguments. I'm not a fan of bashing footballers for their wages.

    The money is there. It's far better that it goes to the players than is creamed off by shareholders and CEOs.

    The issue should be where has the money come from. It's from fans worldwide who are paying more than they should to watch the games (mostly TV money as ticket money is small fry compared to that). Follow this and you'll find who to blame. It's not Danny Drinkwater.
    Nobody is blaming drinkwater.how could they?! I do know of people who turn down job offers because they dont think they are worth the pay, but it is pretty unusual. But danny drinkwater is not a hollywood superstar. He's an extra.

    How much did football cost you in the 90s? And did you enjoy it? We are being charged to watch what used to be ours anyway. The premier league has some brilliant players and teams, but as a competition it is dreadful. Id much rather it was like the championship where there are a host of teams who are in it to win it, but the money that some clubs have at their disposal makes that impossible. And the discrepancy between the haves and have nots when you look at the 92 clubs is absolutely cavernous now. I do understand why armchair fans like the hyperbolic version of football peddled by sky and lets be honest, that is the customer base now. But its not for me.

    And if we are going to have a megabucks league for a world of armchair fans, then id like to see steps taken to even out the competition. I imagine drinkwater's gross income this year will be more than the turnover of many league clubs. When football has got itself into a situation where a player who cannot get a game at burnley is valued more highly than a league 2 side, something is wrong as the latter is infinitely more important to the game than the former.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    What about all the jobs that go, just so you can watch the PL go bust?

    https://www.premierleague.com/this-is-pl/the-premier-league/686502

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    I started the thread, not to criticise Drinkwater, but through the realisation that the game is being rinsed. Good luck to him, the fault lies with the people handing out the contracts not the people signing them. Of course top, top footballers deserve to be well rewarded, they are the cream of the biggest sport on the planet and they perform week in, week out. Danny Drinkwater doesn’t and no doubt there are countless others, as someone above they aren’t the Hollywood stars they are the extras and extras have to supplement their earnings by waiting tables etc in between roles. Maybe be a reason to call for, not just a squad cap, but for a ‘playing staff’ cap. It would curtail the spiteful hoovering up of decent fringe players by the richest clubs with no intention of playing them but certainly preventing the chasing pack from benefitting.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    What about all the jobs that go, just so you can watch the PL go bust?

    https://www.premierleague.com/this-i...-league/686502
    Why would they go? Top flight clubs will always need top flight infrastructure. If a few billionaires who fund this walk away if we end up with fair competition and they can no longer buy success for their vanity project then those clubs will be replaced by others. If anything, fair competition might increase jobs in support roles as more teams would have higher ambitions.

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    Re: Drinkwater Back On Loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    Nobody is blaming drinkwater.how could they?! I do know of people who turn down job offers because they dont think they are worth the pay, but it is pretty unusual. But danny drinkwater is not a hollywood superstar. He's an extra.

    How much did football cost you in the 90s? And did you enjoy it? We are being charged to watch what used to be ours anyway. The premier league has some brilliant players and teams, but as a competition it is dreadful. Id much rather it was like the championship where there are a host of teams who are in it to win it, but the money that some clubs have at their disposal makes that impossible. And the discrepancy between the haves and have nots when you look at the 92 clubs is absolutely cavernous now. I do understand why armchair fans like the hyperbolic version of football peddled by sky and lets be honest, that is the customer base now. But its not for me.

    And if we are going to have a megabucks league for a world of armchair fans, then id like to see steps taken to even out the competition. I imagine drinkwater's gross income this year will be more than the turnover of many league clubs. When football has got itself into a situation where a player who cannot get a game at burnley is valued more highly than a league 2 side, something is wrong as the latter is infinitely more important to the game than the former.
    I don't think people are queuing up to blame Drinkwater in particular. But footballers are always getting bashed for how much they earn. That's the reason salaries are published weekly rather than annually - 100k a week sounds much worse than 5m a year.

    The people actually responsible for fleecing fans, at the fa, the clubs and the premier league for a start, rarely are. They're the decision makers. I'm pretty sure we're in agreement here.

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