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  1. #26

    Re: No betting with credit card

    UK non gamblers are pretty rare these days what with billions spent every year on an endless list of lotteries and scratch cards alone that amounts to £500 per person annually.

    As for online bookies, the boss of Bet365 stuffs several hundred million quid into her purse each year so profitable is that industry.

    Bet365: UK's best-paid boss hits £323m jackpot - https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50834994

  2. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    What a surprise, you know people who do this.
    Mad where these accounts spring from when you put a few people on ignore.

    Who are you again? I don't recall ever talking to you on here (under this name)

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    Re: No betting with credit card

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Mad where these accounts spring from when you put a few people on ignore.

    Who are you again? I don't recall ever talking to you on here (under this name)
    Sorry, just a general observation that you seem to be an expert on absolutely everything. Didn't mean to offend you, but it does seem you have a lot of anecdotal evidence to cover every subject under the sun. It's quite refreshing to have someone as genuinely interesting, intelligent, well-travelled on a football messageboard of all things. We are lucky to have you.

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Abolishing cash is the wet dream of the 'financiers' Ford spoke of because once it's elbowed every financial transaction will be digital and traceable. Moreover, any and every tax/fine/penalty will be collected at source from people's accounts. The ultimate sanction would be to deny access to their own money, and ability to live, for anything a government may legislate for. On every occasion we don't use cash we're tightening the noose around our own necks.
    The ultimate will be the transdermal chip of course, without which you will not officially exist as it will encrypt all your basic personal info. It will be needed for everything from making a doctor's appointment to paying for all goods and services. No need for a passport or driving licence or insurance or CCFC season ticket - it'll all be on the chip. The "mark of the beast" comes to mind!

  5. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Yeah cos walking to a cashpoint when you've done the 100 definitely won't happen.. it's the same for many of they take cash out or card, or if you leave it at home you can get cash off a mate that you've got to pay back, or you can transfer money from your banking app to a mate for cash.. point is if you want to spend it you'll find a way.
    Erm, you leave your cards at home and what is a banking app?

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Sorry, just a general observation that you seem to be an expert on absolutely everything. Didn't mean to offend you, but it does seem you have a lot of anecdotal evidence to cover every subject under the sun. It's quite refreshing to have someone as genuinely interesting, intelligent, well-travelled on a football messageboard of all things. We are lucky to have you.
    My reply was going to be "show me where I've proclaimed to be an expert on travelled" then I remembered I do t really care.

    I live in the valleys, it's not unusual to know many addict's, I wouldn't mind betting if a few people off here asked about they'd know someone who has banned themselves from gambling, it's not some mega rare thing that hardly occurs.

  7. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Erm, you leave your cards at home and what is a banking app?
    My point was there are ways around every scenario you made. No bank card? Borrow off a mate..get a bar tab...
    Have your mobile? Use your banking app or even use your phone to pay...

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    My point was there are ways around every scenario you made. No bank card? Borrow off a mate..get a bar tab...
    Have your mobile? Use your banking app or even use your phone to pay...
    I get ‘borrow off a mate’, that the scenario has been around for centuries, the other things I have no clue about but they seem like the type of things that we’ve alluded to in this thread, they’re stealthily putting people in debt rather than the cash method that’s also been around for centuries, ‘when you’re spent up, go home, don’t put yourself in deeper water’, especially when you had a few pints and caution is thrown to the wind.........until you check your balance!!!! Perhaps you, again, haven’t paid enough attention to what’s been posted i.e. cash as opposed to other means of paying, which is getting folk into deep shite on card only gambling sites, card only takeaway services, using your card on evenings out etc.

  9. #34

    Re: No betting with credit card

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I get ‘borrow off a mate’, that the scenario has been around for centuries, the other things I have no clue about but they seem like the type of things that we’ve alluded to in this thread, they’re stealthily putting people in debt rather than the cash method that’s also been around for centuries, ‘when you’re spent up, go home, don’t put yourself in deeper water’, especially when you had a few pints and caution is thrown to the wind.........until you check your balance!!!! Perhaps you, again, haven’t paid enough attention to what’s been posted i.e. cash as opposed to other means of paying, which is getting folk into deep shite on card only gambling sites, card only takeaway services, using your card on evenings out etc.
    I’m sure that the majority of hotels in the UK won’t accept cash. Even for one nights stay. No credit card, no room at the inn.
    I’m not sure if we’ll witness a cashless society in our lifetime, but it’s definitely coming.

  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Could someone transfer money from their credit card to their bank card as a work around? If so, what changes really? Apart from the charge to move the money costing them more..
    Not quickly they couldn't, no. You need to apply for a money transfer off your card, which takes a day or two to process. Besides the intitial transaction charge the "cash" transferred you will also incur interest on the "cash" transferred at a ridiculous rate.

  11. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Am I missing something here?
    Whilst I agree about the dreaded cashless society, today’s decision is stopping people using credit cards to gamble. That’s what we all want isn’t it?
    It will help with compulsive gambling and stop people chasing their losses by instantly getting their hands on cash they havent got.

    But, if people really want to gamble they will find a way, even through a credit card, it will just take a couple of days online to get the money from the credit card into your bank. Or draw cash out on a credit card to gamble in the shop, or deposit into your bank manually but then your talking hundreds rather than thousands in one go.

    Also, when your chasing online its all about the moment "One more spin, one more bet and ill get my money back", if you have to wait 24 / 48 hours then its going to help massively id say. Gives you a period of reflection.

    Either way, I dont think by banning credit cards is going to be the definitive answer, but it will certainly go a long way to helping some compulsive gamblers.

    I just wish theyd banned them 5-10 years ago

  12. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I get ‘borrow off a mate’, that the scenario has been around for centuries, the other things I have no clue about but they seem like the type of things that we’ve alluded to in this thread, they’re stealthily putting people in debt rather than the cash method that’s also been around for centuries, ‘when you’re spent up, go home, don’t put yourself in deeper water’, especially when you had a few pints and caution is thrown to the wind.........until you check your balance!!!! Perhaps you, again, haven’t paid enough attention to what’s been posted i.e. cash as opposed to other means of paying, which is getting folk into deep shite on card only gambling sites, card only takeaway services, using your card on evenings out etc.
    I read your original post yes, and like I've said its not (for everyone) that straightforward.
    It doesn't really matter what ones you know or don't, they are all opinions that make the temptation of spending your limit and leaving all that much harder.
    Wasn't the original post about helping irresponsible not gamble? The ideal scenario you paint is lovely, but unfortunately there are too many irresponsible people out there who have too much temptation in front of them.

    Also, you get borrowing off a mate as it's been around yonks.. but don't seem to see it as a problem like the other things I mentioned..they all put you in debt.

  13. #38

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    They should treat the gambling industry like they did the tobacco industry and ban advertising,same for the drinks industry.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    I read your original post yes, and like I've said its not (for everyone) that straightforward.
    It doesn't really matter what ones you know or don't, they are all opinions that make the temptation of spending your limit and leaving all that much harder.
    Wasn't the original post about helping irresponsible not gamble? The ideal scenario you paint is lovely, but unfortunately there are too many irresponsible people out there who have too much temptation in front of them.

    Also, you get borrowing off a mate as it's been around yonks.. but don't seem to see it as a problem like the other things I mentioned..they all put you in debt.
    How much interest would your mate being charging for the overnight loan as I’d assume it’d be someone you regularly socialise with and you’d be dropping it around his house the next day? Tune in to Jeremy Vine now.

  15. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/u-k-bans...ling-1.1373445

    The U.K. will ban gambling companies from accepting credit cards for bets from April 14, as the government continues to tighten regulation of the industry.

    Seems a good decision ?
    Sounds reasonable. They should do something about the adverts too.

  16. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    How much interest would your mate being charging for the overnight loan as I’d assume it’d be someone you regularly socialise with and you’d be dropping it around his house the next day? Tune in to Jeremy Vine now.
    Same as my bank would for a withdrawal. **** all.

  17. #42

    Re: No betting with credit card

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Same as my bank would for a withdrawal. **** all.
    Aaaaand another thread descends into Dembeth having the last word on a point that has noting to do with the OP.

  18. #43

    Re: No betting with credit card

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Sorry, just a general observation that you seem to be an expert on absolutely everything. Didn't mean to offend you, but it does seem you have a lot of anecdotal evidence to cover every subject under the sun. It's quite refreshing to have someone as genuinely interesting, intelligent, well-travelled on a football messageboard of all things. We are lucky to have you.
    A general observation observed by many. At least hes mixed it up this time. Its usually "Down my local....."

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  20. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
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  21. #46

    Re: No betting with credit card

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/u-k-bans...ling-1.1373445

    The U.K. will ban gambling companies from accepting credit cards for bets from April 14, as the government continues to tighten regulation of the industry.

    Seems a good decision ?
    A good decision re: credit card because they cant gamble whats not theirs, but plenty of people gamble without getting addicted so the government need to be careful how much they clamp down on the gambling industry.

    Would people who enjoy a drink without being addicted like it if all sorts of restrictions were put on them just because some people are alcoholics?

  22. #47

    Re: No betting with credit card

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Same as my bank would for a withdrawal. **** all.
    And you’ve cracked it at last. Withdraw the cash from the hole in the wall for f*ck all, take said cash out with you, whether to the bookies, pub, club etc, leave card at home, when the cash is gone retire gracefully, having spent what you could afford, no temptation whatsoever to keep flashing the card which, as alluded to by other posters, may result in you having a rude awakening when next checking your balance. Even the most sensible of people can get carried away when they aren’t emptying their wallet of notes, credit and debit cards are faceless plastic and that’s exactly what the leeches who are bleeding people want.

  23. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    And you’ve cracked it at last. Withdraw the cash from the hole in the wall for f*ck all, take said cash out with you, whether to the bookies, pub, club etc, leave card at home, when the cash is gone retire gracefully, having spent what you could afford, no temptation whatsoever to keep flashing the card which, as alluded to by other posters, may result in you having a rude awakening when next checking your balance. Even the most sensible of people can get carried away when they aren’t emptying their wallet of notes, credit and debit cards are faceless plastic and that’s exactly what the leeches who are bleeding people want.
    I cracked it when I first read your post. Calm down.

    I was just saying it's not that simple for everyone these days and gave examples, for some reason you didn't like that.

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    I cracked it when I first read your post. Calm down.

    I was just saying it's not that simple for everyone these days and gave examples, for some reason you didn't like that.
    And the removal of the ease which cards can be used will help irresponsible people who can’t resist the temptation.

  25. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    And the removal of the ease which cards can be used will help irresponsible people who can’t resist the temptation.
    Blimey. Yes, YES , we know. WE KNOW.

    Then there's the other side, and that's all I've highlighted.

    Think that's us done now. Crikey.

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