https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/u-k-bans...ling-1.1373445
The U.K. will ban gambling companies from accepting credit cards for bets from April 14, as the government continues to tighten regulation of the industry.
Seems a good decision ?
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https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/u-k-bans...ling-1.1373445
The U.K. will ban gambling companies from accepting credit cards for bets from April 14, as the government continues to tighten regulation of the industry.
Seems a good decision ?
In the main yes, but people will find a way.
You can go on GameStop which bans you from all bookies online, ones you wouldn't have heard of, but you can still Chuck your mate 50 to put on the football on his account, as many people I know do.
Like with anything you'll only stop if you want to stop.
Commercial TV should also be warned to get its house in order, we’re bombarded with gambling adverts all showing ecstatic winners. A few contradicting this should be shown portraying the misery gambling can bring on families & individuals, the less gullible amongst us realise than there are far, far more losers than winners yet we’re bombarded with punters jumping for joy, it’s wrong. Also Just Eat, Go Compare & the meerkats can f*ck off as well
Excellent move I think. Next step total ban on gambling ads on TV. Those who know how to gamble do not need ads - the ads are there for one purpose only, to make it seem exciting/glamorous to new punters.
Gambling ads, takeaway food ads etc, all online stuff, governments don’t want people using cash anymore. They don’t want a punter going in the bookies with £50 cash, doing £30, keeping £20 back for a takeaway later on in the evening, and when the cash is gone, it’s gone. They’d rather us rack up debt on debit/credit cards, spend what we haven’t got. Keeps the workers under control, being in debt, terrified to rock the boat at work when conditions deteriorate, can’t afford to upset management, out of work, out of a home etc. Thatcher used the same logic with ‘right to buy’, get the working man in debt and they’ll behave themselves whatever shit is thrown at them.
I agree with your remarks. Although the debt slavery game is ubiquitous and we're all victims because without a single exception every country worlwide is mired with a huge national debt, including dinky ones like Kuwait that's knee-deep in oil, which citizens are compelled to service via taxes.
Almost a century ago Henry Ford, founder of the car company, warned of what the endgame, which we're on the precipice of, will be: 'The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts.'
I know it’s been debated on here before but the ‘almost forced’ use of cards is a way of pinpointing the habits, likes and most concerning the whereabouts of people at any given time, I know there’s the big brother of cctv surrounding us but using your card cuts out the mistaken identity that could happen with a camera, unless your card has been stolen you’re traceable to the second with every transaction.
Opened an account with them quite recently just to place one specific bet (Plaid Cymru to win the Ceredigion parliamentary seat at 6/5) that I thought they'd mispriced. Transferred £500 to fund it to discover the highest stake they'd accept was a little over £200. Placed the bet then withdrew, or tried to, the rest back to the debit card I'd used 10 minutes before only to receive a message that to comply with anti money laundering regulations I was required to supply acceptable photo ID, a recent utility bill and evidence of how I acquired the dough. WTF?
I then did some reading to discover they're notorious chiselling b'stards - https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.paddypower.com - who will pull all kinds of strokes to keep punters' money.
I had exactly this issue with Ladbrokes.
Opened account EASY deposited money.
One bet. WON
Tried to withdraw winnings.
Suddenly it is not possible without a nightmare of paperwork.
So I wrote and complained.
Took 5 letters and chasing via the complaints body and 1 year and they returned my money.
Will never ever touch Ladbrokes again.
You cannot win at gambling....its like having 50 girlfriends in the same city and hoping they don't find out about each'other! Trust me! i've tried. Thanks again sludge for the contacts
Yeah cos walking to a cashpoint when you've done the 100 definitely won't happen.. it's the same for many of they take cash out or card, or if you leave it at home you can get cash off a mate that you've got to pay back, or you can transfer money from your banking app to a mate for cash.. point is if you want to spend it you'll find a way.
This will help people with shit credit (so that is good news) but anyone in remotely good standing (and I will concede that probably isn't a trait normally attributed to compulsive gamblers) can just do a money transfer or go to cash point and withdraw up to their cash limit and deposit in their current account. Or they can play on unlicensed (in the UK) offshore books without doing any of that. Point is, if you are remotely smart and completely ****ed in the head, you can and will get around it. They could go after the credit card companies for allowing transactions that are completely bogus, with fake codes and locations but they don't.
Same here in Denmark. It's bloody scandalous how it's allowed. It's non stop online casino adverts in the evening, and watching a game of football has a near constant ticker at the bottom of the screen with live odds.
I don't really gamble at all, but if you have a problem you would struggle to get away from it. Advertising it on TV should be banned.
Am I missing something here?
Whilst I agree about the dreaded cashless society, today’s decision is stopping people using credit cards to gamble. That’s what we all want isn’t it?
It will help with compulsive gambling and stop people chasing their losses by instantly getting their hands on cash they havent got.
But, if people really want to gamble they will find a way, even through a credit card, it will just take a couple of days online to get the money from the credit card into your bank. Or draw cash out on a credit card to gamble in the shop, or deposit into your bank manually but then your talking hundreds rather than thousands in one go.
Also, when your chasing online its all about the moment "One more spin, one more bet and ill get my money back", if you have to wait 24 / 48 hours then its going to help massively id say. Gives you a period of reflection.
Either way, I dont think by banning credit cards is going to be the definitive answer, but it will certainly go a long way to helping some compulsive gamblers.
I just wish theyd banned them 5-10 years ago