Vast Collection of Cardiff City Memorabilia for sale at Auction

[The Lone Gunman]

Well, yes, I think we can all guess which particular person with a deep interest and knowledge of the history of CCFC is the vendor. What angers me is what seems to be, in the past, a blatant disregard by the club in its own history to allow such important material to be lost to private hands with the eventual likelihood of it being spread to the four winds.

In respect of your question about who would want the dusty old ledgers, you are correct that they are probably not suitable exhibit material but there is an organisation located next door to CCS run by the Council who would love to have them, conserve them and make them available to the public to consult.

Bear in mind that if, as Cardiff55 suggests and as seems almost certain, some of this material such as the old ledgers was passed to the owner during the 1980's, we are talking about a period when the club often didn't have enough cash on the premises to pay bus fares for its apprentices, let alone the money to pay for the kind of services the gentleman concerned was providing.

To be honest, I very much doubt this material was regarded as important by anyone at the club back then, and I doubt it would be now either. I'm sure the Glamorgan archives would indeed be the best place for it, but it certainly wouldn't have occurred to anyone working at CCFC in the Eighties to send it there.

I think it's important to underline that many of the memorabilia items in this collection were obtained by the owner privately from sources other than the football club itself, while some of it is reasonably common and some of it has very little value. For whatever reason, the owner has decided to sell it, and it appears to me that he's selling his whole collection. I'd be very surprised if he has any other items of significant value, either monetary or in historical terms.

[Mr Soul '68]

To be honest, I very much doubt this material was regarded as important by anyone at the club back then, and I doubt it would be now either. I'm sure the Glamorgan archives would indeed be the best place for it, but it certainly wouldn't have occurred to anyone working at CCFC in the Eighties to send it there.

I know for a fact that the Cardiff Story Museum based in the Old Library on The Hayes would definitely be interested with this material, if it was bequeathed to them

[Enoch Mort]

Bear in mind that if, as Cardiff55 suggests and as seems almost certain, some of this material such as the old ledgers was passed to the owner during the 1980's, we are talking about a period when the club often didn't have enough cash on the premises to pay bus fares for its apprentices, let alone the money to pay for the kind of services the gentleman concerned was providing.

To be honest, I very much doubt this material was regarded as important by anyone at the club back then, and I doubt it would be now either. I'm sure the Glamorgan archives would indeed be the best place for it, but it certainly wouldn't have occurred to anyone working at CCFC in the Eighties to send it there.

I think it's important to underline that many of the memorabilia items in this collection were obtained by the owner privately from sources other than the football club itself, while some of it is reasonably common and some of it has very little value. For whatever reason, the owner has decided to sell it, and it appears to me that he's selling his whole collection. I'd be very surprised if he has any other items of significant value, either monetary or in historical terms.

I mentioned what else may possibly become available as, during the 2008/09 season you may recall that facsimile reproductions of old programmes were reproduced in matchday programmes for that season. These reproductions included programmes from wartime, 30s, 20s and Southern League. so they must have existed in the possession of the club or the collector at least then, perhaps they don't now. I accept what you say that some of this memorabilia may have come from sources other than the club but for the Trust suggestion that the club set up a museum to be progressed there will need to be exhibits and this batch contains the sort of stuff that would be suitable. At a top estimate of only £15k one would have thought that the club could intervene to do a deal with the vendor to acquire the lot. Such an opportunity is unlikely ever to arise again.

[The Lone Gunman]

I mentioned what else may possibly become available as, during the 2008/09 season you may recall that facsimile reproductions of old programmes were reproduced in matchday programmes for that season. These reproductions included programmes from wartime, 30s, 20s and Southern League. so they must have existed in the possession of the club or the collector at least then, perhaps they don't now.

Perhaps the club does have some programmes from the period you mention or maybe the owner of this batch does indeed have a few, but I think it's more likely that they were borrowed from other collectors in order to have copies taken. For instance, I have a City-supporting mate who used to collect programmes and has some incredibly valuable issues from the club's earliest years. I don't think he collects them these days, but no doubt his most valuable examples are tucked away somewhere for safekeeping.