Congestion Charge proposed for Cardiff

[CCFCC3PO]

Trains from those places are every half an hour during the day.

None of this will be implemented without improvements in public transport.

I wonder if there'll also be better park and ride as well.

No they're not.

Rhymney to Cardiff
7:43
8:33
9:27
10:27
11:27
12:27
13:27
14:27
15:27
16:27
17:27
then......
20:00 - 2hrs 33 mins after the 17:27

Ebbw Vale
6:35
7:37
8:40
9:38
10:37
11:37
12:37
13:37
14:37
15:37
16:37
17:37

Merthyr is every 30 minutes.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

No they're not.

Rhymney to Cardiff
7:43
8:33
9:27
10:27
11:27
12:27
13:27
14:27
15:27
16:27
17:27
then......
20:00 - 2hrs 33 mins after the 17:27

Ebbw Vale
6:35
7:37
8:40
9:38
10:37
11:37
12:37
13:37
14:37
15:37
16:37
17:37

Merthyr is every 30 minutes.

Yes, I knew the Merthyr frequency. I thought Rhymney was as well. My mistake. Obviously not the patronage to have a regular 30 minute service, though that will change with the metro.

[CCFCC3PO]

Yes, I knew the Merthyr frequency. I thought Rhymney was as well. My mistake. Obviously not the patronage to have a regular 30 minute service, though that will change with the metro.

It has to change Eric, but until it does penalising people who have limited options is a tax rise pure and simple.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

It has to change Eric, but until it does penalising people who have limited options is a tax rise pure and simple.

But the council have said there would be no congestion charge before significant improvements to public transport.

[CCFCC3PO]

But the council have said there would be no congestion charge before significant improvements to public transport.

Define significant.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Define significant.

Just carry on your downer then.

[CCFCC3PO]

Just carry on your downer then.

No, it's a legitimate question. "Significant" is completely ambiguous.

If I was still working in Cardiff, I would challenge you to travel with me from Ebbw Vale to Cardiff and back. Not only was I adding 2 hours to the day travel time, but I was also adding around 90 minutes sitting around waiting for trains, or for work to start at 9am.

I would have to get to Ebbw Vale station at 7:15. Train at 7:37. Arrive in Cardiff 8:35. Get to work at 9am. Leave work at 5pm. Train at 5:40. Into Ebbw Vale at 6:40. Home at 7. on a good day. 12 hours for a 7.5 hour working day.

So, what does significant mean, and how do you see it changing the trip above?