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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    The FTSE 100 finished slightly up yesterday after falling 1.5% intraday. The Yank Dow Jones was also up and appeared on course to break a four-day losing streak... then Trump showed up with a bumbling display at a press conference he had called and the Dow reversed. Selling resumed in Japan overnight and the FTSE 100 is back to struggling again, down 2.4% currently.
    Hang on I'm confused were told by all the clever folk , he's an idiot when he speaks , however the global money markets and experts, listen and react to his mutterings??

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    He's an actor playing the role of a brash ignoramus. All he does is lie day in, day out at the behest of those who ensured his (s)election. As candidate Trump he told the truth: how fake the economy was built on debt piled upon more debt and that stock markets were a big fat ugly bubble. Then the instant he became president he totally flipped by outspending Obama with yet greater debt to feed the 'everything bubble' to new heights while bragging by pointing at those stock markets as proof that America's economy was the greatest ever and he deserved due recognition for it.

    This coronavirus and the hysterical bullshit surrounding it is the perfect no blame pin to pop the world's economies and usher in the banksters Final Solution.

    The vast majority of people are unaffected by stock prices and government debt yields bombing per se as they're not directly invested but their private pension plans most definitely are. Banks falling and credit freezing will awake the doziest because capital controls limiting the amount that people can withdraw of their own money will be the financial shock and awe moment. Of course, there'll be layoffs everywhere, jobcentres nationwide will be overwhelmed with the desperate anxious to collect a pittance in Universal Credit payments, and those with savings above a paltry £16k will be told to sod off after six months to live off what they had saved. Those servicing debt, especially mortgage holders, will be royally fecked.

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    FTSE 100 is being kicked and stamped on again this morning. It's -4% so far.

    Cyril and Lardy have abandoned this thread. We need them to return for their valuable happy-clappy insights!

    I see Cyril playing Whoopi Goldberg as Lardy enthusiastically shakes a tambourine in CCMB's rendition of Oh Happy Day.


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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    FTSE 100 is being kicked and stamped on again this morning. It's -4% so far.

    Cyril and Lardy have abandoned this thread. We need them to return for their valuable happy-clappy insights!

    I see Cyril playing Whoopi Goldberg as Lardy enthusiastically shakes a tambourine in CCMB's rendition of Oh Happy Day.

    The squad are over in Bristol today honoring their hero. Umbrellas at the ready

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    FTSE 100 is being kicked and stamped on again this morning. It's -4% so far.

    Cyril and Lardy have abandoned this thread. We need them to return for their valuable happy-clappy insights!

    I see Cyril playing Whoopi Goldberg as Lardy enthusiastically shakes a tambourine in CCMB's rendition of Oh Happy Day.
    Think you are conflating two things Organ. Is the virus dangerous and a risk to world physical and economic health and did it start because of some uber-conspiracist mumbo jumbo involving the Chinese setting the virus on their own people. The first appears to be increasingly yes and the latter is still the same bollocks as when you first proposed it!

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    How strange that you're missing me, Organ. I saw this stupid shit and thought of you. You've mentioned at least 75% of these theories over the years.

    https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2020/02/27...greatest-hits/


    What's the problem with the economy? Back on page 3, it was me telling you that China would lose out. You were the happy clapper saying "China has its own printing press and can create any amount of new currency to support itself and inject into equity markets and anything else it cares to prop up."

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    How strange that you're missing me, Organ. I saw this stupid shit and thought of you. You've mentioned at least 75% of these theories over the years.

    https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2020/02/27...greatest-hits/


    What's the problem with the economy? Back on page 3, it was me telling you that China would lose out. You were the happy clapper saying "China has its own printing press and can create any amount of new currency to support itself and inject into equity markets and anything else it cares to prop up."
    I asked 'where are the counterfeiters?' in a message on the previous page because a global collapse can only occur on purpose. Booms and busts are created to transfer wealth into fewer hands. Banks, particularly central banks, raison d'être is the creation of debt, the more the better. Government, corporate and household debt is off the charts. If this is the 'pull it' event they have chosen, as it appears to be, then they are withdrawing instead of adding liquidity to make it happen with the end goal of finally achieving all their aims, which will undoubtedly include the abolition of cash.

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    When I begun this thread I assumed it would be one or t'other of overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom, not both, but that's what we're getting. I sensed something was awry when the BBC's 1pm news led on successive days with some tiny number of coronavirus deaths which is why I created this topic.

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    FTSE 100 is being kicked and stamped on again this morning. It's -4% so far.

    Cyril and Lardy have abandoned this thread. We need them to return for their valuable happy-clappy insights!

    I see Cyril playing Whoopi Goldberg as Lardy enthusiastically shakes a tambourine in CCMB's rendition of Oh Happy Day.

    🤣

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
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    According to the White House Chief of Staff the risks from Coronavirus are being massively exaggerated by the media with the primary purpose of getting rid of Trump, who has been regularly downplaying those risks.

    Can you imagine the confusion this must be sowing with those who devour everything that comes from the White House as sacred but also need to toady up to Organ and his Ministry of Megadoom to try and stay a member of his self-styled Illuminati?

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    According to the White House Chief of Staff the risks from Coronavirus are being massively exaggerated by the media with the primary purpose of getting rid of Trump, who has been regularly downplaying those risks.

    Can you imagine the confusion this must be sowing with those who devour everything that comes from the White House as sacred but also need to toady up to Organ and his Ministry of Megadoom to try and stay a member of his self-styled Illuminati?
    I do think there is a certain over hyping, I wonder as the Chinese economy /reputation suffers there is a certain amount of s******ing going on in the corridors of the White House.

    Anyways priorities now is to get out in the next 15 onto the pop and down the City ,with my face mask on of course n shaking hands though just fist bumps

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I do think there is a certain over hyping, I wonder as the Chinese economy /reputation suffers there is a certain amount of s******ing going on in the corridors of the White House.

    Anyways priorities now is to get out in the next 15 onto the pop and down the City ,with my face mask on of course n shaking hands though just fist bumps
    Do agree there LOM. The White House increasingly appears to be staffed by people with little perception of how they could suffer just as China has. The American health system seems to be pretty exposed to a virus sweeping through.

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    As far as I'm aware nothing whatsoever is being shipped from China. It's only a matter of time before gaps appear in supermarket food shelves. We can all do without a different telly, mobile phone and much more, but supply chains in critical areas such as many medicines and essential parts for manufacturing industries are different.

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    As far as I'm aware nothing whatsoever is being shipped from China. It's only a matter of time before gaps appear in supermarket food shelves. We can all do without a different telly, mobile phone and much more, but supply chains in critical areas such as many medicines and essential parts for manufacturing industries are different.
    China is still shipping things right now, but nowhere near as much as usual.

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    China published its two most watched numbers to gauge its economic health overnight after world stock markets closed. Their Manufacturing PMI was at 50 previously, analysts forecast the latest would come in at 45 but 35 was the actual one. The non-Manufacturing PMI was 54 previously, predicted to drop to 51 and came in at 29.

    From what I've read elsewhere today from those who understand what those monster declines entail then they mean a worldwide recession is a certainty because no amount of money printing stimuli can replace that loss of production, and had that data been published 24 hours earlier then equity prices would have caved much harder than what they did yesterday.

    There's lots of chatter about Monday becoming known as Black Monday when markets reopen and there's also speculation the US Federal Reserve Bank may announce an emergency interest rate cut on Sunday evening in the hope of stemming the anticipated selling pressure.

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    no amount of money printing stimuli can replace that loss of production,

    Goodness me! What a revelation!

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    China is still shipping things right now, but nowhere near as much as usual.
    Amazon appears to be selling Chinese based goods.

    I've stopped purchasing said goods or eating in Chinese takeaways, in a hope that it will force companies and restaurants to reflect and provide home based goods and food from our glorious lands .

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Chinatowns worldwide have been blitzed says many news reports with restaurants empty. I won't be paying another visit to my nearest Chinese takeaway after searching a recent order for king prawn omelette to unearth a solitary prawn - they can feck right off for eternity!


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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    One element of the recent doom that most will celebrate is the decline in the price of the benchmark WTI crude oil. In the past 10 days it has fallen 16%, from $54 a barrel to $45.

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    At long last, the counterfeiters show up.

    Live: FTSE jumps as Bank of England pledges ‘all necessary steps’ to fight coronavirus – live updates

    European shares rally sharply on hopes of co-ordinated central bank easing
    Bank of England says it is working with the Treasury and international partners

    More - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-live-updates/

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    Faulty testing kits?


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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    At long last, the counterfeiters show up.

    Live: FTSE jumps as Bank of England pledges ‘all necessary steps’ to fight coronavirus – live updates

    European shares rally sharply on hopes of co-ordinated central bank easing
    Bank of England says it is working with the Treasury and international partners

    More - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-live-updates/
    Oooh me shares are bouncing

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    Re: Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Good interview, hate or love Trump he cancelled flights very early on from China before many other countries even when Nancy and Biden called him over reacting ,who would you want in charge now , fence sitters or doers .

    Wonder if this Virus is this the end of cheap Chinese Labour , corporations here and in the USA should bring the jobs back , I'd rather pay more ,have more jobs for our folk and stop this Chinese growth and influence, its far more dangerous that Trump and Boris .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Good interview, hate or love Trump he cancelled flights very early on from China before many other countries even when Nancy and Biden called him over reacting ,who would you want in charge now , fence sitters or doers .

    Wonder if this Virus is this the end of cheap Chinese Labour , corporations here and in the USA should bring the jobs back , I'd rather pay more ,have more jobs for our folk and stop this Chinese growth and influence, its far more dangerous that Trump and Boris .
    There are some interesting points raised in this article about the financial interests of multinational corporations..

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ns-at-stake-2/

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