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  1. #1

    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Blimey, the presses must have been rolling all night !

    Having been at the Luton game and watching the Huddersfield match on stream, the performances were markedly different. A half time rocket from Harris at Luton saw City being told it was Luton not Real Madrid they were playing, and our aggressive midfield approach couple with a rapidly failing home side saw City in relative control. Last night Huddersfield were one of those sides - much like Stoke - who are top six apart from the small details of stopping goals and scoring them. What struck me was an element of confidence had crept into City - they looked a lot more comfortable on the ball - even trying to find a City player when clearing from defence. I'm sure Adomah is making a difference, but defensively for both games its Morrison and Bennett who have stood out. Richards looks a bit out of his depth, and whilst Nelson is capable, without Morrison alongside him he would be exposed.

    Neil Harris is doing what you'd hope any manager to do - get the players he has to play better. His signing of Adomah looks good, plus he identified City need to play more from the back, and has strengthened with younger players in this area. But it's the 2 away clean sheets that's significant. A mean defence as you go into the final phase of the season is big, big, plus..

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    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Blimey, the presses must have been rolling all night !

    Having been at the Luton game and watching the Huddersfield match on stream, the performances were markedly different. A half time rocket from Harris at Luton saw City being told it was Luton not Real Madrid they were playing, and our aggressive midfield approach couple with a rapidly failing home side saw City in relative control. Last night Huddersfield were one of those sides - much like Stoke - who are top six apart from the small details of stopping goals and scoring them. What struck me was an element of confidence had crept into City - they looked a lot more comfortable on the ball - even trying to find a City player when clearing from defence. I'm sure Adomah is making a difference, but defensively for both games its Morrison and Bennett who have stood out. Richards looks a bit out of his depth, and whilst Nelson is capable, without Morrison alongside him he would be exposed.

    Neil Harris is doing what you'd hope any manager to do - get the players he has to play better. His signing of Adomah looks good, plus he identified City need to play more from the back, and has strengthened with younger players in this area. But it's the 2 away clean sheets that's significant. A mean defence as you go into the final phase of the season is big, big, plus..
    One of the best things Harris has done is allow our wingers to play more narrow on occasions. It make link up play to our striker much much easier.

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    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Quote Originally Posted by PhyllisStant View Post
    One of the best things Harris has done is allow our wingers to play more narrow on occasions. It make link up play to our striker much much easier.
    Good point, I don't think it's a coincidence why we've seen an uptick in form from Murphy. When he's hugged to the touchline he's very easily ganged up by the fullback and usually the covering midfielder whereas when he varies when he stays wide and comes inside he often finds more space and he can start to show what he's truly capable of

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    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Last night Huddersfield were one of those sides - much like Stoke - who are top six apart from the small details of stopping goals and scoring them.
    Really?!? What on earth leads you to that conclusion?

    I'd agree that Stoke's position in the table is something of a mystery as they've looked quite a bit better than that every time I've watched them, but Huddersfield are a truly poor side. Lightweight, over-elaborate on the ball, no cutting edge up front, weak and disorganised in defence.

    I haven't seen Luton or Barnsley play this season, but I've watched Huddersfield on several occasions and they look comfortably the worst side I've seen. For a team as physically strong and organised as City usually are, they are the perfect opponents.

    Only two sides in the division have scored fewer goals than Huddersfield this season and last night demonstrated why. People complain about Glatzel on a regular basis, but he looks great compared to Mounie. Huddersfield apparently paid £11.5 million-plus for him, which is astonishing. He's an awful player.

    After a poor start, City's overall performance last night was decent. They thoroughly deserved a three-goal victory, but they didn't have to do a great deal to achieve it other than stay organised and take the chances that they created. Let's not pretend Huddersfield were anything other than terrible, because they weren't.

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    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Really?!? What on earth leads you to that conclusion?

    I'd agree that Stoke's position in the table is something of a mystery as they've looked quite a bit better than that every time I've watched them, but Huddersfield are a truly poor side. Lightweight, over-elaborate on the ball, no cutting edge up front, weak and disorganised in defence.

    I haven't seen Luton or Barnsley play this season, but I've watched Huddersfield on several occasions and they look comfortably the worst side I've seen. For a team as physically strong and organised as City usually are, they are the perfect opponents.

    Only two sides in the division have scored fewer goals than Huddersfield this season and last night demonstrated why. People complain about Glatzel on a regular basis, but he looks great compared to Mounie. Huddersfield apparently paid £11.5 million-plus for him, which is astonishing. He's an awful player.

    After a poor start, City's overall performance last night was decent. They thoroughly deserved a three-goal victory, but they didn't have to do a great deal to achieve it other than stay organised and take the chances that they created. Let's not pretend Huddersfield were anything other than terrible, because they weren't.
    Did you enjoy our 3-0 away win TLG?

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    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole View Post
    Did you enjoy our 3-0 away win TLG?
    It was a good City performance for sure, but it wasn't a good game. Not much of a spectacle at all. Once the Bluebirds got themselves in front it was all over as a contest.

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    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Really?!? What on earth leads you to that conclusion?

    I'd agree that Stoke's position in the table is something of a mystery as they've looked quite a bit better than that every time I've watched them, but Huddersfield are a truly poor side. Lightweight, over-elaborate on the ball, no cutting edge up front, weak and disorganised in defence.

    I haven't seen Luton or Barnsley play this season, but I've watched Huddersfield on several occasions and they look comfortably the worst side I've seen. For a team as physically strong and organised as City usually are, they are the perfect opponents.

    Only two sides in the division have scored fewer goals than Huddersfield this season and last night demonstrated why. People complain about Glatzel on a regular basis, but he looks great compared to Mounie. Huddersfield apparently paid £11.5 million-plus for him, which is astonishing. He's an awful player.

    After a poor start, City's overall performance last night was decent. They thoroughly deserved a three-goal victory, but they didn't have to do a great deal to achieve it other than stay organised and take the chances that they created. Let's not pretend Huddersfield were anything other than terrible, because they weren't.
    There was an element of irony in my comment. It's relatively easy for managers to get a group of players passing the ball around between their own penalty area and the opposition's, especially as the modern trend is for the other team to drop back giving them room. So I'd say that Huddersfield in that respect are no worse than Swansea - though maybe I'd amend 'top six' to 'top half' on reflection. What they can't do is score and defend - as you also commented - things that separate the tippy-tappy coaches from the successful results-orientated managers.

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    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    There was an element of irony in my comment. It's relatively easy for managers to get a group of players passing the ball around between their own penalty area and the opposition's, especially as the modern trend is for the other team to drop back giving them room. So I'd say that Huddersfield in that respect are no worse than Swansea - though maybe I'd amend 'top six' to 'top half' on reflection. What they can't do is score and defend - as you also commented - things that separate the tippy-tappy coaches from the successful results-orientated managers.
    Huddersfield's plight is interesting because it demonstrates how difficult it is for a manager to get a team playing his way when they've spent so long playing another way. I'm pretty sure Danny Cowley's Lincoln side were physical, robust and direct, This Huddersfield team is anything but.

    Cowley's description of his own team last night was as follows: "I thought we started the game well and had a lot of pretty patterns to the final third, time and time again. We were disappointed, though, with the final pass and the final action - and definitely the movement ahead of the ball, I didn't think we had enough penetration. Ultimately, games of football are won in both boxes and if you are soft in your defensive box and powder puff in the attacking area then don't expect to win football matches."

    He's spot on. Huddersfield were definitely powder puff up front. Mounie was absolutely awful. He didn't trouble City's centre backs at all. Morrison played well but he'll seldom have an easier night. Once they'd got the first goal, City needed to do little more than stay solid in order to win the game. They did so very comfortably.

  9. #9

    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    [QUOTE=The Lone Gunman;5047879]Really?!? What on earth leads you to that conclusion.


    I haven't seen Luton or Barnsley play this season, but I've watched Huddersfield on several occasions and they look comfortably the worst side I've seen. )


    Yeah comfortably the worst who turned over Brentford on their own patch beat Forest thrashed Hull beat QPR last game.

    They had a terrible start and are not comfortably the worst side in the division.

    We done a number on them.

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    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    [QUOTE=Hilts;5047915]
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Really?!? What on earth leads you to that conclusion.


    I haven't seen Luton or Barnsley play this season, but I've watched Huddersfield on several occasions and they look comfortably the worst side I've seen. )


    Yeah comfortably the worst who turned over Brentford on their own patch beat Forest thrashed Hull beat QPR last game.

    They had a terrible start and are not comfortably the worst side in the division.

    We done a number on them.
    Lulled into expecting hoofball and then we blitzed them with Barcelona style passing.....brilliant, just brilliant

  11. #11

    Re: The night the rest of the Championship began to notice Cardiff City?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Yeah comfortably the worst who turned over Brentford on their own patch beat Forest thrashed Hull beat QPR last game.

    They had a terrible start and are not comfortably the worst side in the division.
    That's your opinion. I did say I haven't seen either Barnsley or Luton in action, although both have apparently given City a decent game in recent times.

    We know anyone can beat anybody else in the Championship. Surprise results happen on a regular basis. For instance, Luton have beaten Bristol City 3-0 this season, drawn with Fulham and beaten Blackburn, Derby and Sheffield Wednesday, while bottom side Barnsley have beaten Fulham and twice drawn with West Brom.

    Of course City 'done a number' on Huddersfield. They were terrible, though.

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