How did we play today?

[RonnieBird]

How we played is academic really. The raw fact is that if we can't win games like this we can't realistically think about promotion.

When we abandoned Warnockball I warned that it would entail starting again, and it has. Same thing as when Malky went, we lost an impetus which took a long time to build and once again it'll take a while to get a new one going.

My fear is that if Tomlin goes off form of gets injured we haven't got a plan B. As it is , he's got the manager out of trouble time and again with a flash of genius, but the lack of any clear team wide strategy or system has been there to see.

It's okay, but no more than that. I don't think it's going anywhere other than getting away with it and ending up in the middle third of the table, which is a pity. The great adventure is over and we must wait for the next one

[Eric the Half a Bee]

How we played is academic really. The raw fact is that if we can't win games like this we can't realistically think about promotion.

When we abandoned Warnockball I warned that it would entail starting again, and it has. Same thing as when Malky went, we lost an impetus which took a long time to build and once again it'll take a while to get a new one going.

Is that like the 2 defeats the 2012/13 champions lost against Peterborough? Closer to home, is that like Barnsley winning at Fulham, even though we managed to beat Barnsley?

As for us losing an impetus that took a long time to build being destroyed, we've won more points under Harris than we did under Warnock and we've become more difficult to beat.

Basically, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Again.

[RonnieBird]

Is that like the 2 defeats the 2012/13 champions lost against Peterborough? Closer to home, is that like Barnsley winning at Fulham, even though we managed to beat Barnsley?

As for us losing an impetus that took a long time to build being destroyed, we've won more points under Harris than we did under Warnock and we've become more difficult to beat.

Basically, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Again.

I wish you didn't need to be so childish and personal.
Unfortunately , I think my view of the current situation is about right. It's not a question of one dissapointing result, but rather that there's a lack of clear strategy which everyone is plugged into.
It's also arguable that it's necessary because the previous theme wasn't going any further than it had, but the fact remains that we are in a state of flux which won't be resolved overnight.

Is Mr Harris the answer ? I wouldn't dismiss it, but despite his excellent personal progress he's got quite a lot to learn compared to the likes of Malky or Sir Neil, the most important of which is that you can't sacrifice match by match results as part of your progress toward how you'd eventually like the team to shape up.
I think he's a gamble and that if he ever gets things right that'll take at least another year to start yielding results.

Does that mean that I want to blame ,attack or undermine him ? Certainly not because he didn't make the decision to change course and in any case, once that decision was taken it was taken and there's nothing constructive to be gained from bemoaning it. I merely point out the realities of the matter.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I merely point out the realities of the matter.

You said we can't think about winning promotion if we don't win games like today. That's nonsense.

You also claim we've lost impetus since Warnock left. That's also nonsense. Results have been better and confidence appears to be growing having been almost non-existant since relegation under Warnock.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

'Twas a veritable curate's egg.

[dml1954]

How we played is academic really. The raw fact is that if we can't win games like this we can't realistically think about promotion.

When we abandoned Warnockball I warned that it would entail starting again, and it has. Same thing as when Malky went, we lost an impetus which took a long time to build and once again it'll take a while to get a new one going.

My fear is that if Tomlin goes off form of gets injured we haven't got a plan B. As it is , he's got the manager out of trouble time and again with a flash of genius, but the lack of any clear team wide strategy or system has been there to see.

It's okay, but no more than that. I don't think it's going anywhere other than getting away with it and ending up in the middle third of the table, which is a pity. The great adventure is over and we must wait for the next one

Rubbish. We are only three points off the play offs. The conditions were poor today but everyone worked hard. The ref was abysmal - apart from the third ‘goal’ and missing two pens for us, he should have sent off their player in the first minute for the tackle on Vaulks. He actually gave a free kick to them (against Adomah) in the second half when the ‘fouled’ player was behind Adomah who was running with the ball and threw himself to the ground. The ref was out of his depth.

[City123]

How we played is academic really. The raw fact is that if we can't win games like this we can't realistically think about promotion.

When we abandoned Warnockball I warned that it would entail starting again, and it has. Same thing as when Malky went, we lost an impetus which took a long time to build and once again it'll take a while to get a new one going.

My fear is that if Tomlin goes off form of gets injured we haven't got a plan B. As it is , he's got the manager out of trouble time and again with a flash of genius, but the lack of any clear team wide strategy or system has been there to see.

It's okay, but no more than that. I don't think it's going anywhere other than getting away with it and ending up in the middle third of the table, which is a pity. The great adventure is over and we must wait for the next one

You do realise we're three points off the playoffs?