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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I my opinion Stalin (who also swore and smoked) was more responsible for defeating the Third Reich than Churchill.
    Russia may have lost more people but the only survived to eventually confront the germans because of equipment supplied to them first by the British and secondly by the Americans.

    Hilter actually made a speab which was dropped all over southern england called "A last call to reason" wanting Britiain to declare a turce and not fight them. If we had agreed he could have moved all the divisions tied up in northern france to the east and he'd have got to moscow before winter set in. He probably would have won at Stalingrad which would have opened the wat to all the oil in the caucasus. So I'd say it was a bit of everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
    Blair ....WMD
    Yeah he’s a ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    When /i posted that I was wondering how long it would take you to turn up.
    Was that the first indan genocide or the second one. giove me the datails please, I'm not sure.

    I told you beofre, you're a waste of oxygen
    How furiously are you typing to have that many mistakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Russia may have lost more people but the only survived to eventually confront the germans because of equipment supplied to them first by the British and secondly by the Americans.

    Hilter actually made a speab which was dropped all over southern england called "A last call to reason" wanting Britiain to declare a turce and not fight them. If we had agreed he could have moved all the divisions tied up in northern france to the east and he'd have got to moscow before winter set in. He probably would have won at Stalingrad which would have opened the wat to all the oil in the caucasus. So I'd say it was a bit of everyone.
    That's nuts, if I had a speab dropped on me I'd be insisting the government declared a turce

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I my opinion Stalin (who also swore and smoked) was more responsible for defeating the Third Reich than Churchill.
    I agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    That's nuts, if I had a speab dropped on me I'd be insisting the government declared a turce
    If Hitler won the wat, would he have won the war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    That's nuts, if I had a speab dropped on me I'd be insisting the government declared a turce
    Speabs can be very dangerous and sneaky. I know a guy in the south of england who had one in his attic for years and years and no one knew it was there. lmao

    Edit: I couldn't even manage to spell it wrong right! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    How furiously are you typing to have that many mistakes?
    Furious. I expect you to think you can have such an affect as you have such a high opinion of yourself lol
    Waste of oxygen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Furious. I expect you to think you can have such an affect as you have such a high opinion of yourself lol
    Waste of oxygen.
    It was the only reason for your posts being so poorly worded and spelled.

    Sorry you think I’m a waste of oxygen because I don’t think Churchill was perfect

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    Stay Alert. Thats sorted it.
    So its no longer Stay Home. Erm yeah do that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Oh no here we go , whose right whose wrong ,what to do ,what no to do , who will be right , who will be wrong , who shall we blame ,who should ( we choose ) to blame ,shoulder lockdown, should we not , are we early to react ,are we late to react . 🙊🙈🙉

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    I see the statistician Boris Johnson quoted in PMQs this week has "clarified" his views - taken from the BBC's rolling coverage;-

    The UK public is being fed "number theatre" by the government instead of "genuine information", a leading statistician from the University of Cambridge told the BBC on Sunday.

    David Spiegelhalter criticised the government's daily briefing, saying "seems to be co-ordinated really much more by a Number 10 communications team" rather than led by experts.

    "I just wish the data was being brought together and presented by people who really knew its strengths and limitations and could treat the audience with some respect," he said.

    Spiegelhalter wrote an article for the Guardian in April which has been quoted by government ministers when they argue against comparing Britain's high death rate to other nations.

    But earlier this week he tweeted to ask ministers to stop citing his article.

    He told the BBC's Andrew Marr: “What I was talking about was the comparisons between the bad countries in Europe such as UK, France Italy, Belgium - I was not saying we can’t make any comparisons at all.

    “Clearly it is important to note that we as a group are way above Germany, Portugal, Norway, who have low mortality rates.

    “What happened in this country was not inevitable," he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Oh no here we go , whose right whose wrong ,what to do ,what no to do , who will be right , who will be wrong , who shall we blame ,who should ( we choose ) to blame ,shoulder lockdown, should we not , are we early to react ,are we late to react . 🙊🙈🙉
    This just shows not to reduce the lock down to early. The same happened in Korea too that’s why they’ve closed bars and restaurants again.

    It doesn’t mean the U.K. didn’t react late and kill a load of people as a result. I don’t understand how some people don’t see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Oh no here we go , whose right whose wrong ,what to do ,what no to do , who will be right , who will be wrong , who shall we blame ,who should ( we choose ) to blame ,shoulder lockdown, should we not , are we early to react ,are we late to react . ������
    It’s bound to rise a bit though....so what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    It’s bound to rise a bit though....so what?
    How much is a bit? Can you quantify that in terms of numbers of people in hospital with covid-19, numbers of people who should be in hospital with other ailments, and numbers of people being measured by undertakers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Stay Alert. Thats sorted it.
    So its no longer Stay Home. Erm yeah do that as well.
    Yeah, it's a case of sending a completely ambiguous, but strongly worded, statement to the nation. It is typically British, in a way.

    I can see arguments as people start socialising because they no longer have to stay at home. I have had e-mails from companies since Friday declaring "The lockdown is lifted".

    "Only go out for essential trips - including the garden centre and library". It's getting a little bit garbled - a bit like Johnson's answer to a Keir Starmer question on Wednesday. Make sense of this, if you can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris Johnson
    As I think is readily apparent to everybody who has studied the situation, and I think the scientists would confirm, the difficulty in mid-March was that the tracing capacity that we had—it had been useful, as the right hon. and learned Gentleman rightly says, in the containment phase of the epidemic—was no longer useful or relevant, since the transmission from individuals within the UK exceeded our capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    This just shows not to reduce the lock down to early. The same happened in Korea too that’s why they’ve closed bars and restaurants again.
    It'll be genuinely interesting to see what happens in the countries that have begun to lift their lockdowns. If those that appear to have coped best with the first wave of the virus suffer significant second waves of infections and deaths, then the situation will become a lot clearer and some extremely difficult decisions will need to be made by the authorities.

    Two things we know are that a vaccine could either be a long way off or may never arrive at all, and that the human race cannot and will not continue to function as it is currently for an indefinite period of time. Cracks have been appearing since the outset and they seem to be widening on a daily basis now, which is hardly surprising. Difficult times ahead for sure.

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    Please remember that here in Wales we are a devolved nation and therefore our slogan is still Stay Home, Protect The NHS, Save Lives.

    The new "Stay Alert" slogan is an English one, not a British one. Our lockdown was extended (with minor adjustments) for three weeks 2 days ago

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    The first lockdown was ridiculously lax, in hindsight 4 weeks of draconian measures would have been more sensible. A slight 3 week relaxing then, allowing a bit of exercise etc would have been a psychological Godsend, that’d been 7 weeks gone. Another slight relaxing then to, say what the actual first lockdown entailed would have had us happier. As it is it seems as though people are beginning to think it’s business as usual, the second wave is quite probable. Are we cannon fodder? Is a population reduction the government’s plan to get back on its financial feet, there’s a few been wiped off the monthly state pension bill already.

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    It is probably something a politician will never say but I expect some of them may be thinking it:-
    The aim is to keep the R rate below 1.
    What percentage of deaths occur in care homes? The national R rate is allegedly 0.6-0.9 at the moment.
    If you take care homes out of the equasion what would the R rate be then?
    It is quite a calous exercise but care homes can be more eaily regulated and environmentally controlled which would give the greater population more breathing space.
    That and ensuring that the most vulnerable continue to barricade (can't think of the word they use for higher level of self isolation) themselves might make lifting the lock down for the vast majority less problematic.
    But of course, as I said, no politician would ever say it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    The first lockdown was ridiculously lax, in hindsight 4 weeks of draconian measures would have been more sensible. A slight 3 week relaxing then, allowing a bit of exercise etc would have been a psychological Godsend, that’d been 7 weeks gone. Another slight relaxing then to, say what the actual first lockdown entailed would have had us happier. As it is it seems as though people are beginning to think it’s business as usual, the second wave is quite probable. Are we cannon fodder? Is a population reduction the government’s plan to get back on its financial feet, there’s a few been wiped off the monthly state pension bill already.
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......
    Wish I’d wrote this. Awesome post TLG 👏👏

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......
    But the cabinet have been beavering away all week, straining every sinew, and have come up with a brand new slogan.

    Some people are never satisfied.

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