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    I think the five of you have done outstandingly well to keep this going for over 100 pages not much else going on without football to be fair

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I only hypothetically didn't like it.
    The woman is getting paid about £25 an hour to watch TV and she is complaining about it. Just resign!! It's not rocket science. nobdoy is forcing her to do it!
    Most people work because they need the money, if you just resign from a job it might well disqualify you from claiming benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    Most people work because they need the money, if you just resign from a job it might well disqualify you from claiming benefits.
    I'm fully aware of that but most people who have a job where they are getting paid good money to do sweet FA normally have the sense to keep the mouths shut their heads down and take the money.
    As I keep saying, if she doesn't like it why doesn't she quit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I'm fully aware of that but most people who have a job where they are getting paid good money to do sweet FA normally have the sense to keep the mouths shut their heads down and take the money.
    As I keep saying, if she doesn't like it why doesn't she quit?
    I've answered that, perhaps she needs the money, most people work because they need money and if you quit a job for no good reason you will not be able to claim unemployment benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    I've answered that, perhaps she needs the money, most people work because they need money and if you quit a job for no good reason you will not be able to claim unemployment be benefit.
    I'm not arguing with that, it makes perfect sense. So why does she then go on the BBC and complain about the job? Why not keep her mouth shut and take the money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I'm not arguing with that, it makes perfect sense. So why does she then go on the BBC and complain about the job? Why not keep her mouth shut and take the money?
    Well because this isn't a binary choice she faces, quit and spill the beans vs stay in the job and keep quiet.

    Have you thought that maybe her ideal outcome is to stay in the role and become busy and useful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Well because this isn't a binary choice she faces, quit and spill the beans vs stay in the job and keep quiet.

    Have you thought that maybe her ideal outcome is to stay in the role and become busy and useful?
    Absolutely, that would be the optimum result. But when it gets busy no doubt she will be busy. Lets be reasonable here. Most people would be quite happy to be paid and do less rather than be paid and do more. I like to be busy myself when I work but when it's not busy I don't feel the urge to broadcast it to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Absolutely, that would be the optimum result. But when it gets busy no doubt she will be busy. Lets be reasonable here. Most people would be quite happy to be paid and do less rather than be paid and do more. I like to be busy myself when I work but when it's not busy I don't feel the urge to broadcast it to the world.
    Amazingly, you are not the barometer for the rest of the working population.

    I'm currently doing a full day's work but been reduced to 5 hours pay. Now, I could follow your example and quit, or laze around - or I can just knuckle down and help my company get through this. Even in normal times, at quiet periods I'd still be looking for ways to help the company. After all, they are paying my wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I'm not arguing with that, it makes perfect sense. So why does she then go on the BBC and complain about the job? Why not keep her mouth shut and take the money?
    I've told you, feeling guilty perhaps, perhaps she would rather do a fair days work for a fair days pay rather than do little work for a fair days pay at the taxpayers expense but she can't afford to give the job up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    I've told you, feeling guilty perhaps, perhaps she would rather do a fair days work for a fair days pay rather than do little work for a fair days pay at the taxpayers expense but she can't afford to give the job up.
    Is the right answer.

    She would have to be daft or irresponsible to either resign or keep quiet whilst the country's main public health initiative is operating so poorly. Good on her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Is the right answer.

    She would have to be daft or irresponsible to either resign or keep quiet whilst the country's main public health initiative is operating so poorly. Good on her.
    But you don't know it is operating so poorly, you just assume it is because she is not busy. someone said it was a waste of public money and I used the analogy of the the emergency hospitals. Because they have been grossly underused does that mean they were a waste of taxpayers money? She was employed as one of the number of operatives deemed likely to be needed if and when it gets busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    But you don't know it is operating so poorly, you just assume it is because she is not busy. someone said it was a waste of public money and I used the analogy of the the emergency hospitals. Because they have been grossly underused does that mean they were a waste of taxpayers money? She was employed as one of the number of operatives deemed likely to be needed if and when it gets busy.
    Fair point, but with respect this work is not as intrinsically skilled. People are doing it from home. You could argue that it would be quicker to get people online to work this role as and when demand warrants it, than it would be to suddenly increase hospital beds.

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    If you’re actually interested in progress and some early issues encountered with the track and trace system it’s here: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....y-two-11996729

    Warning for xsnaggle - it includes some criticisms from semi-retired GPs and nurses who are contact tracers and were hoping to put their specialist skills to good use helping and advising the public. Hearing these senior clinicians say they’re not just happy to keep quiet and get paid for watching Netflix and doing their nails all day may tip you over the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    If you’re actually interested in progress and some early issues encountered with the track and trace system it’s here: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....y-two-11996729

    Warning for xsnaggle - it includes some criticisms from semi-retired GPs and nurses who are contact tracers and were hoping to put their specialist skills to good use helping and advising the public. Hearing these senior clinicians also say they’re not just happy to keep quiet and get paid for watching Netflix and doing their nails all day may tip you over the edge.
    It won't bother me.
    Let me ask you a question. If someone gave you a job where they paid you about £25-27 an hour for doing nothing what would you do? (that's about £1000 a week btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    It won't bother me.
    Let me ask you a question. If someone gave you a job where they paid you about £25-27 an hour for doing nothing what would you do? (that's about £1000 a week btw)

    £27 an hour now? By the end of the night, they'll be earning more than Tevez.

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    £25 an hour? Really?
    £17.35 per hour for daytime shifts according to this job ad. You can see they are trying to recruit qualified healthcare professionals here not people looking to make a quick buck for doing naff all.

    https://www.indeed.co.uk/m/viewjob?j...b867&from=serp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    17.35 per hour according to this job ad..You can see they are trying to recruit qualified healthcare professionals here not people looking to make a quick buck for doing naff all.

    https://www.indeed.co.uk/m/viewjob?j...b867&from=serp
    Oh, you mean xsnaggle was making it all up again? What a shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    £17.35 per hour for daytime shifts according to this job ad. You can see they are trying to recruit qualified healthcare professionals here not people looking to make a quick buck for doing naff all.

    https://www.indeed.co.uk/m/viewjob?j...b867&from=serp
    A quote from the BBC article.
    "One NHS job advert for a clinical contact tracer stated the role paid up to £27.15 per hour and described suitable applicants as nurses, dentists or vets, among others."
    Her previous occupation falls into one of these catagories. She is a clinical tracer. But believe what you wish to believe. The BBC story is available if you want to go and check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    A quote from the BBC article.
    "One NHS job advert for a clinical contact tracer stated the role paid up to £27.15 per hour and described suitable applicants as nurses, dentists or vets, among others."
    Her previous occupation falls into one of these catagories. She is a clinical tracer. But believe what you wish to believe. The BBC story is available if you want to go and check.
    The BBC - but you said they were unreliable.

    Also - note the word "CLINICAL" - types of people expected to apply include nurses, dentists and vets.

    Others are on less than £10 an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    The BBC - but you said they were unreliable.

    Also - note the word "CLINICAL" - types of people expected to apply include nurses, dentists and vets.

    Others are on less than £10 an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Oh, you mean xsnaggle was making it all up again? What a shock.
    The rate xsnaggle quoted appears to be the premium Sunday and bank holiday hourly rate. It’s included in the job ad I linked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    The rate xsnaggle quoted appears to be the premium Sunday and bank holiday hourly rate. It’s in the job ad I linked.
    Is it? where did you discover that? Do you have the pay rates to show everybody? BTW I didn't quote it, the BBC did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Is it? where did you discover that? Do you have the pay rates to show everybody? BTW I didn't quote it, the BBC did.
    See previous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    See previous post.
    Thanks. I should tell the BBC but I can't be bothered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    See previous post.
    So would you or would you not take the money and be happy? Or would you stick with your principles and resign?

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