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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Brazil pretty certain to take second spot off the UK today when it comes to number of virus deaths, but it won't change a thing as far as having three "strong man leaders"/strutting buffoons at the top of that particular league of shame is concerned.
    They've basically got super trump in charge and his followers are even more deluded. It's crazy to watch.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...avirus-victims

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I doubt Spain & Italy have accurate data knowing their public services, but it doesn't make pretty reading I'd admit. If you consider deaths occur mainly in overweight, chronically ill folk, maybe our awful health as a nation contributes. I still doubt BJ is proud of this though..
    Boris Johnson literally said in the Commons that he is "proud" of the Govt's Coronavirus response.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9546381.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...virus-response

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Boris Johnson literally said in the Commons that he is "proud" of the Govt's Coronavirus response.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9546381.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...virus-response
    Well he is hardly likely to say it was shite is he? FFS he's a politician, they don't do 'truth'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Well he is hardly likely to say it was shite is he? FFS he's a politician, they don't do 'truth'!
    Saying you're proud of 50,000+ deaths on your watch is hardly much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Saying you're proud of 50,000+ deaths on your watch is hardly much better.
    But some people can polish a turd!!!

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    What did our clown of a leader come up with today? Can’t face watching the buffoon talk anymore. Wales still closed despite the lowest R number in the UK? He must love a queue going to be the biggest one ever seen for universal credit in a few months......

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    What did our clown of a leader come up with today? Can’t face watching the buffoon talk anymore. Wales still closed despite the lowest R number in the UK? He must love a queue going to be the biggest one ever seen for universal credit in a few months......
    The lowest R number in the country with the most deaths per capita from this virus in the world.

    Remember when the tories produced their scoring system, there were recommendations about what the score should be be before things started opening up - England may have abandoned that system pretty much immediately for political reasons (it seems). But Wales seems to be more in line with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    The lowest R number in the country with the most deaths per capita from this virus in the world.

    Remember when the tories produced their scoring system, there were recommendations about what the score should be be before things started opening up - England may have abandoned that system pretty much immediately for political reasons (it seems). But Wales seems to be more in line with that.
    In some places in England, especially coastal regions like Blackpool and down in the South West, the R rate was around 1 a few days ago. So, Wales is at 0.7 (midpoint) which is fairly close to the 0.65 rate that Germany were reporting at the time of their lockdown easing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    In some places in England, especially coastal regions like Blackpool and down in the South West, the R rate was around 1 a few days ago. So, Wales is at 0.7 (midpoint) which is fairly close to the 0.65 rate that Germany were reporting at the time of their lockdown easing.

    My focus is on Wales and today 77 more cases, with Cardiff, RCT and N Wales featuring. I do not understand the logic of our 5 mile travel limit as it pushes the population of the hot spots together, thus increasing the likelihood of catching the virus. And our First Minister cannot justify this stance with any scientific evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    My focus is on Wales and today 77 more cases, with Cardiff, RCT and N Wales featuring. I do not understand the logic of our 5 mile travel limit as it pushes the population of the hot spots together, thus increasing the likelihood of catching the virus. And our First Minister cannot justify this stance with any scientific evidence.
    Yes, I agree about the five mile limit - I tend to be a bit more supportive of the Welsh Government than some on here and I'm with them when it comes to a cautious approach to easing lockdown, but the five mile limit just seems odd to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    In some places in England, especially coastal regions like Blackpool and down in the South West, the R rate was around 1 a few days ago. So, Wales is at 0.7 (midpoint) which is fairly close to the 0.65 rate that Germany were reporting at the time of their lockdown easing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-health-crisis

    R number risen above 1 in parts of England – Sage

    The reproduction number, or R, of coronavirus across the UK remains between 0.7 and 0.9, while across England it is 0.8-1.0, according to the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.

    Sage also published regional values for R in England for the first time, with the South West having the highest range at 0.8-1.1.

    The East of England is at 0.7 - 0.9, London, the Midlands, the North West and the South East at 0.8 - 1.0, and the North East and Yorkshire at 0.7 - 1.0.

    But experts cautioned against the use of regional R values - the average number of people an infected to pass the disease on to - saying that as the number of infections falls, regional R values become less reliable.

    Instead, from next week the government will publish the growth rates for regions that are based on data and make fewer assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-health-crisis

    R number risen above 1 in parts of England – Sage

    The reproduction number, or R, of coronavirus across the UK remains between 0.7 and 0.9, while across England it is 0.8-1.0, according to the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.

    Sage also published regional values for R in England for the first time, with the South West having the highest range at 0.8-1.1.

    The East of England is at 0.7 - 0.9, London, the Midlands, the North West and the South East at 0.8 - 1.0, and the North East and Yorkshire at 0.7 - 1.0.

    But experts cautioned against the use of regional R values - the average number of people an infected to pass the disease on to - saying that as the number of infections falls, regional R values become less reliable.

    Instead, from next week the government will publish the growth rates for regions that are based on data and make fewer assumptions.

    I think the rate in Scotland was at 0.7. So it does appear that a gradual transition from lockdown is having a better impact on infection rates than the UK Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    The lowest R number in the country with the most deaths per capita from this virus in the world.
    I though it was Belgium with that unenviable distinction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I though it was Belgium with that unenviable distinction?
    Belgium are counting all care home deaths in their official statistics whether there is evidence of covid or not, nobody else is counting it like this.
    Ona like for like basis are very likely to be worse than Belgium (and the worst in the world)

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    Is this true? If you are under 20 years old you have more chance of being killed by lightening than coronavirus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Is this true? If you are under 20 years old you have more chance of being killed by lightening than coronavirus?
    pointless post as there is clearly nobody under 20 on this board. I'd guess the average age was 62

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
    pointless post as there is clearly nobody under 20 on this board. I'd guess the average age was 62
    The lightning statistic is shocking.

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    https://twitter.com/Simon_Nixon/stat...665066497?s=20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    https://twitter.com/Simon_Nixon/stat...665066497?s=20

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Is this true? If you are under 20 years old you have more chance of being killed by lightening than coronavirus?
    Even armed with that information, I would suggest that many people under the age of 20 take suitable precautions during an electrical storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Is this true? If you are under 20 years old you have more chance of being killed by lightening than coronavirus?
    Statistics don't mean a damn thing if you are the one killed by lightning. I would think lightening (with bleach perhaps?) could also have fatal consequences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Is this true? If you are under 20 years old you have more chance of being killed by lightening than coronavirus?
    With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million.

    That is regardless of age there is a 0.000083% chance of being struck by lightning and a 0.000005% chance of dying from it. In the specific age group of under 20 then the percentage risk would be even lower.

    Based on the university of Cambridge analysis attached the 16% of 5-14 year olds and 13% of 15-24 year olds have been infected by Covid 19. For those it has been fatal in 0.001% and 0.0039% of cases respectively.

    So it's not true.


    https://www.mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk/now-casting/

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    With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million.

    That is regardless of age there is a 0.000083% chance of being struck by lightning and a 0.000005% chance of dying from it. In the specific age group of under 20 then the percentage risk would be even lower.

    Based on the university of Cambridge analysis attached the 16% of 5-14 year olds and 13% of 15-24 year olds have been infected by Covid 19. For those it has been fatal in 0.001% and 0.0039% of cases respectively.

    So it's not true.


    https://www.mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk/now-casting/

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._two_databases
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    With a UK population of around 58.2 million the risk of being struck by lightning (indoors and outdoors combined) is one person in 1.2 million and the risk of being struck and killed by lightning is one person in 19 million.

    That is regardless of age there is a 0.000083% chance of being struck by lightning and a 0.000005% chance of dying from it. In the specific age group of under 20 then the percentage risk would be even lower.

    Based on the university of Cambridge analysis attached the 16% of 5-14 year olds and 13% of 15-24 year olds have been infected by Covid 19. For those it has been fatal in 0.001% and 0.0039% of cases respectively.

    So it's not true.


    https://www.mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk/now-casting/

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._two_databases
    Good work Cyril, so how many people get killed by lightening who are under 20 in the uk? I missed it.
    For tonight’s assignment I would like you to tell me, im 19 years old am I more likely to either die from covid or sepsis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Good work Cyril, so how many people get killed by lightening who are under 20 in the uk? I missed it.
    For tonight’s assignment I would like you to tell me, im 19 years old am I more likely to either die from covid or sepsis?
    What? You want to calculate an even lower likelihood of an under 20 year old being killed by lightning than from Covid? What point were you trying to prove when you asked whether your death by lightning question was true or not?

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