Had 2 mates who spent over a week in UHW on oxygen before Christmas. Both home now thankfully.Originally Posted by NYCBlue
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Had 2 mates who spent over a week in UHW on oxygen before Christmas. Both home now thankfully.
Reading that more people died of Covid yesterday in the UK than have died from it in Australia since the beginning of the pandemic.
For those who think the UK is doing badly, our vaccination programme is doing rather well by comparison with the EU:
Vaccine doses given out by EU countries
Germany - 316,962
Italy - 182,442
Spain - 139,339
Poland - 92,220
Denmark - 51,512
Romania - 41,609
Portugal - 32,000
Greece - 16,233
Hungary - 15,000
Croatia - 13,798
Czech Republic - 13,000
Slovakia - 7,201
Austria - 6,000
Slovenia - 5,934
Finland - 5,445
France - 5,000
Bulgaria - 4,739
Ireland - 4,000
Estonia - 3,188
Latvia - 2,923
Lithuania - 2,270
Malta - 1,400
Luxembourg - 1,200
Belgium - 700
Started today: Netherlands
No data: Cyprus, Sweden
Source: Our World In Data
I know that the German government is being criticised heavily for not sourcing enough vaccinations.
Which is strange as they are the world leaders when it comes to producing pharmaceuticals aren’t they? Something I didn’t know until this pandemic....
Not sure why this is being turned into an "us and them " competition by Johnson, well I am sure why but I'm not going to make this political like he does. One thing to remember is that the EU approved the vaccine later.
I have a few vulnerable family members, so I really hope that The Government pulls this off.
However, I'm going to predict that in a couple of weeks they will be saying that comparing the numbers of vaccines administered in different countries isn't a valid means of judging The Government's performance.
Just a hunch!
The EU have yet to approve the Astra Zeneca vaccine but have approved the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
You are right it shouldn't really be an us or them but I do seem to recall the Government being criticised in the summer for not joining the EU vaccination program which it could have done. The same was true of the Europe wide PPE and ventilator programs.
As far as I can tell not joining those programs hasn't mattered one bit. In fact in the case of the vaccine it seems to have been an advantage ( up to now, could change of course) as we could start our vaccinations before Europe did.
Here's a recent link from the BBC which provides some information. mainly on the vaccine but there is some limited information on progress on the other schemes at the end.
Not just Johnston who makes it political (not disagreeing at all that he does)
France is also having problems in vaccine uptake. Partly due to the public's mistrust of vaccines in general and partly due to a complex pre-vaccine consent process, which I think, must be done several days before administering the vaccine.
It fascinates me that it seems a rarity for people to try and have an global overview of current events and it's often as if Blighty exists in a bubble - and it can be very difficult to judge some complex matters at the best of times if we aren't political dogmatists.
However, and at the risk of stating the obvious, it seems that the UK has been dire in respect to the virus in general but ahead of many comparable countries in sourcing and delivering the vaccines.
Hardly shocking news, I know.
Have the EU got access to Maderna yet? Or are they like us and will get it in the Spring.?
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I don't know but the Moderna vaccine has yet to be approved for use in the UK.
My mate in Italy says this is the one that’s all the talk there.....
1.3 million vaccines in the UK as a whole so far.
Another update due today.
Daily updates from next Monday (11th)
According to ITV.Com
Scientific contribution (developing a vaccine and identifying drugs to be used as part of treatments) will definitely be seen as positive part of UK response though with good amount of credit going to Boris etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the vaccines being approved for use by individual countries and not the EU as a singularity?
I think they could have done but I think they agreed to approving it as a bloc.
This seems to be the position in the extract below from an article written by a German:
"The sclerotic and sluggish EU machine has, unforgivably, botched the roll-out of the vaccines, and the consequences are likely to prove fatal to many thousands of our citizens........................................
My home country of Germany had, by Tuesday, vaccinated some 317,000 people — by far the most of the EU27.
Yet what a bitter irony it is that we who were crucial to the development and manufacturing of the Pfizer/BioNTech jab — BioNTech is a start-up based outside Frankfurt — must now watch lorry loads of supplies travelling to Britain while our own roll-out is beset by delay, uncertainty and fears about future supply.
Our health minister has warned that Germany will not be vaccinating at Britain’s rate until at least the summer, thanks to distribution problems and the EU’s ill-considered ‘cap’ on the number of doses that can be distributed to the various member states."
Didnt know that. Had it in mind it had but we wouldnt get it by Spring.
Probably got that from its results and they mentioned Spring for us.
Thinking about it now can only remember Pfizer and Oxford given approval.
We have ordered the Moderna vaccine for delivery by the Spring subject of course to approval. Because of that the MHRA has given the approval process lower priority.
Schools shut until half term, what a surprise....wonder when all governments will back down and vaccinate teachers. No brainier
The Guardian’s rolling coverage is reporting that there’s been a study which suggests that the Oxford vaccine will be effective against the British and South African mutations.
Moderna vaccine just approved in the Uk.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55586410
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