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  1. #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I'm suggesting it's relatively harmless to those who haven't something seriously wrong with them prior. Of course that's more acute when they're elderly who have a habit of dying when they reach 80+.
    51 Italian doctors have died from this.

    While the elderly and those with health issues are more at risk this virus and the words relatively harmless shouldnt be in the same sentence.

  2. #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    51 Italian doctors have died from this.

    While the elderly and those with health issues are more at risk this virus and the words relatively harmless shouldnt be in the same sentence.
    Yes, it should. Relatively harmless is apposite.

    99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says

    'More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.'

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Yes, it should. Relatively harmless is apposite.

    99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says

    'More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.'
    And those dying are dying because the immune system weakened by the virus, which triggers / enables those underlying illnesses.

    Not difficult to understand, that. Without the virus, some but not all would die.

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Yes, it should. Relatively harmless is apposite.

    99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says

    'More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.'
    Whatever they say 51 of their doctors treating the ill have caught it and died.

    Loads of people if u ask them will say they are in good health. However they may have asthma , diabetes , too high BMI , blood pressure , cholesterol.

    Id love to know how they get 99% when their doctors are dying.

    Temporary hospitals being set up , thousands of ventilators and extra beds , part lockdown. The government have an idea of whats coming.

    Most people will come out of it with their health. But this virus is far from relatively harmless it clearly kills and not just those with serious health conditions.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Principality Stadium is to be used as a temporary hospital.

    2,000 beds
    Yes, that is definitely normal. Nothing to see here. Everyone is just panicking because of the BBC.

  6. #6

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    Sorry didnt read the link. High amount with high blood pressure. A mate of mine is relatively fit plays football but is on blood pressure tabs.

  7. #7

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    As high blood pressure is an underlying health condition wonder if the front line staff are being tested if people are dying. Dont they call it a silent killer as people walk around without knowing it.

  8. #8

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    Oh good, the lunatics have set up camp in this thread

  9. #9

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    The month everything changed

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-52066956

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I'd go for isolating the already ill - whether elderly or not - route rather than the path being taken. To me it's the lesser of two evils. I'm amongst a small minority though.
    **** me how can you have paid attention to how this has unfolded and still think this?

  11. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    **** me how can you have paid attention to how this has unfolded and still think this?
    Absolute insistence on being an 'independent thinker' at all costs and have a contrary view.

  12. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.
    Why are people still talking about the death rate (one calculated 3 months ago too) when that isn’t the issue.

    It is ridiculously contagious and a lot of people who get it require hospitalisation, if this happens the health service gets overwhelmed and indirect deaths and direct deaths go up. How hard is this to understand?

  13. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Absolute insistence on being an 'independent thinker' at all costs and have a contrary view.
    It seems like something a teenager would do to make themselves look “different” for the sake of it.

    It must be exhausting, especially when something like this is going on and being so well documented.

  14. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    It seems like something a teenager would do to make themselves look “different” for the sake of it.

    It must be exhausting, especially when something like this is going on and being so well documented.
    Oh, what crap.

    I'm hardly alone, am I? I have the company of the President of the United States, Commander-in-Chief, leader of the free world (blah and more blah) articulating the same, which is the consequences of an economic and financial meltdown could prove to be more devastating than what Covid-19 might do.

    He has scores of millions of heavily armed citizens to concern himself with and the prospect of a 30% unemployment rate in the months ahead.

    Here in 2011 we saw how many predators are out there ready to loot even in the good ol' days.

  15. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Oh, what crap.

    I'm hardly alone, am I? I have the company of the President of the United States, Commander-in-Chief, leader of the free world (blah and more blah) articulating the same, which is the consequences of an economic and financial meltdown could prove to be more devastating than what Covid-19 might do.

    He has scores of millions of heavily armed citizens to concern himself with and the prospect of a 30% unemployment rate in the months ahead.

    Here in 2011 we saw how many predators are out there ready to loot even in the good ol' days.
    You've gone Full Trump. Never go Full Trump.

  16. #16

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Oh, what crap.

    I'm hardly alone, am I? I have the company of the President of the United States, Commander-in-Chief, leader of the free world (blah and more blah) articulating the same, which is the consequences of an economic and financial meltdown could prove to be more devastating than what Covid-19 might do.

    He has scores of millions of heavily armed citizens to concern himself with and the prospect of a 30% unemployment rate in the months ahead.

    Here in 2011 we saw how many predators are out there ready to loot even in the good ol' days.
    Lining up alongside Trump


  17. #17

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    it’s not worth the effort

  18. #18

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    It’s like he thinks no one else thinks there won’t be a severe effect on the economy because of this. Everyone knows there will be but Italy are having a thousand deaths a day now, New York has already had more people die of Covid than they had homicides last year, the U.K. already has started having 100 deaths a day. You can’t just carry on as normal. And these are just the “direct” deaths, not counting for when the doctors have to chose who dies due to there not being enough bed/staff/equipment.

    Wuhan did a total lockdown after the first 30 deaths, I don’t believe China’s exact figures but the early lock down definitely did some good.

    I remember at the time thinking it was weird and archaic but there really is no other way to stop this becoming a huge issue.

  19. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I'd go for isolating the already ill - whether elderly or not - route rather than the path being taken. To me it's the lesser of two evils. I'm amongst a small minority though.
    I just want to post this again to say how mental it is anyone is still thinking this would work.

  20. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    I just want to post this again to say how mental it is anyone is still thinking this would work.
    Fine, you have a different point of view. I can accept that. You're fond of accusing others of intransigence while you keep insisting you're correct. It's both amusing and annoying because you're unwilling to contemplate you might be wrong.

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Fine, you have a different point of view. I can accept that. You're fond of accusing others of intransigence while you keep insisting you're correct. It's both amusing and annoying because you're unwilling to contemplate you might be wrong.
    From the very start of this you've smugly made claims as if you know what you're talking about. You've consistently been proven wrong, often spectacularly ("it's been designed only to affect Asians, wake me up when a non Asian dies" - current infection rate over the world 614,413) and yet you still pop up and smugly make claims like you know what you're talking about. THAT'S why people won't accept they're wrong when talking to you, because you talk utter, utter shite

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    From the very start of this you've smugly made claims as if you know what you're talking about. You've consistently been proven wrong, often spectacularly ("it's been designed only to affect Asians, wake me up when a non Asian dies" - current infection rate over the world 614,413) and yet you still pop up and smugly make claims like you know what you're talking about. THAT'S why people won't accept they're wrong when talking to you, because you talk utter, utter shite
    Need a like button on this site.

  23. #23

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    Local co-op store, you can buy national lottery tickets and scratchcards. They are however refusing to pay out, claiming "national legislation"... isiots.

  24. #24

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    Sigh, I would come up with a typo when calling others "idiots"...

  25. #25

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    It isn’t a different point of view though. It’s the truth.

    If you only isolate people with symptoms you’ve got a load of symptomless carriers out there spreading it. The symptoms take 2 weeks to show, some people only show mild symptoms. This will cause exponential growth of the disease. That’s a fact, it’s literally already happened.

    Do you disagree with that?

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