But it is only one of the measures used to decide policy, albeit an important one (Allegedly).Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
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But it is only one of the measures used to decide policy, albeit an important one (Allegedly).
They are daily on Monday to Friday.
Can't recall seeing them at the weekend
Yes Daily, but not today. Mr Drakeford must have been busy on his allotment.
Scathing article in yesterday's Daily Telegraph about how Drakeford and co let down the people of RCT. They say that early on he identified the Rhondda as a risk area because of high elderly population, high industrial disease, and deprivation, but then did nothing about it. Falling on testing, track and trace etcYes Daily, but not today. Mr Drakeford must have been busy on his allotment.
Overall South Wales has some of the worse death rates and total cases in the UK, about double per capita than England
I've no reason to doubt the DT claim, or the if there are failings that have contributed towards the suffering of the people in RCT, and if it is so, i'll be bringing it up at my next Labour Party regional meeting, that's what i do, call people out, even if it hurts politically, it's the only way progress is made and things improve as it isn't and shouldn't be about my political biases.
Now over to you, A Tory who lives in one of Wales' most affluent areas, who defends Boris and Cummins, giving a shit about the people of RCT. 40 years to late Comrade. People have been suffering in those areas, young and old, since the Tories waged a war on a once proud community. A Tory showing concern for some of the most deprived people in the UK. You've got some cheek.
So have you as you know f all about me. Born Cardiff, raised on a council estate, made some money playing music in teens. Dad a fitter who had TB for years and we lived on the breadline. Only Christmas present I had one year was from the local Conservative Club. Pulled myself together after an ordinary education and made something of my life.
My wife's from Ton Pentre, dyed in the wool valley's girl and very proud of her history. I worked for many years as a rep in the Valley's areas, made many friends and have fond memories.
As for politics, Starmer would get my vote if there was an election tomorrow, but Drakeford wouldn't.
And I hope you do raise the Rhondda issue at your next Labour meeting because its cost lives
Johnnson 'waffle waffle waffle the most important thing is to wash your hands'
Retail to open in England on June 15....the bridge is going to be busy going east for some essentials, no doubt it will be a few more months before wales wakes up, if it ever does
What ever stupid things the swedes may or may not have done in this pandemic you just have to love their panache.
This from their pandemic advice: "Sex is no obstacle if you and your partner, or partners, show no symptoms of illness".
I lost a lot of respect for a friend of mine when she told me on Sunday that her daughter visits her boyfriend for sex. He shares a house with other tenants and she (the daughter) shares a home with her mother (who is the friend I mentioned) and a lodger who is a a key worker as he is employed in the food industry (and where some of his colleagues have already contracted a virus). My friend was a lifelong teacher until she moved into the area of psychology.
This is damning:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...chology-expert
Robert West, a professor of health psychology at University College London’s Institute of Epidemiology and Health, who sits on the advisory group on behavioural science for Sage told the Guardian: “From a public health perspective what we now have to recognise is that central government probably cannot be trusted to provide leadership, and other agencies, including local and regional government, are going to have to work together to make up for this. It will be difficult and maybe things will change but as things stand there is a leadership vacuum in the heart of government.”
In reference to Cummings’ account of why he drove hundreds of miles to Durham during lockdown, West said: “There are so many holes in his narrative that only the most desperate people who want to believe him could do so. Not least is the idea that someone who is not an idiot would drive for 30 miles (coincidentally to a tourist attraction) with his wife and child in the car to check that he was safe to drive.”
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“They are treating the whole health crisis as though it were a political crisis. If it’s a political crisis, what you do is try to manage your reputation. If it’s a health crisis you focus on saving lives, at whatever cost to your political reputation.”
He said 40 people were involved in Spi-B, the Independent Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviours, which feeds in to Sage, the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.
“I know [concern] is widespread among the group but not everybody feels comfortable speaking out and I completely understand that. But there has been considerable and growing unease,” West said. “The worry is that the government has said from the beginning it is following the science, and that was never true.”
Government minister resigns.
I haven't commented publicly on the situation with Dominic Cummings as I have waited to hear the full details. I welcome the statement to clarify matters, but there remains aspects of the explanation which I have trouble with. As a result I have resigned as a government Minister. pic.twitter.com/6yXLyMzItJ
— Douglas Ross MP (@Douglas4Moray) May 26, 2020
I see the USA is set to pass the 100,000 deaths mark in the next day or two (currently at 99,900 plus on Worldometer) - although it is just another number in many ways, I bet it is one that their Government was praying would not be reached.
I have been plugging in the numbers from Worldometers and DHSC into Excel and made these graphs
cases.jpg
deaths.jpg
The weekly averages seem to be decreasing and we are at a similar level as late March in deaths and in between March and April with cases. Bank holiday may have reduced the accuracy of the stats but nonetheless it looks like the situation is improving
The latest 3 week lock-down expired on the 25 May, Yesterday.
On every third Tuesday Mr Drakeford has been on Television and renewed the lock-down for a further 3 weeks.
He didn't renew it today and neither did the health minister.
Does this mean all the lock-down in Wales is now finished?
How come he did it last on Friday May 8th?
You tell me. I didn't here him say that he only that they were looking at changing some things in 3 weeks time.
You said that he makes his announcements every third Tuesday. But, he doesn't. His last lockdown announcement was on May 8th which was a Friday.
Here's a link for you to read and, very likely, misinterpret.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52584690
He made changes to the lockdown rules on that day because that is the day after they have to be reviewed by law, as the law was passed on a Thursday. But the 3 week lockdown was begun on the Tuesday before the law was passed and is renewed on the Tuesday 3 weeks hence. Which is today!!
I'm sure you'll scour to find something wrong but you should realise by now I don't really care. you're obsessed.
So you didn't read the link (I asked, obsessively sticking to the point you erroneously made, but now have your knickers in a twist about me pursuing).He made changes to the lockdown rules on that day because that is the day after they have to be reviewed by law, as the law was passed on a Thursday. But the 3 week lockdown was begun on the Tuesday before the law was passed and is renewed on the Tuesday 3 weeks hence. Which is today!!
I'm sure you'll scour to find something wrong but you should realise by now I don't really care. you're obsessed.
Date of Article Friday May 8th (18 days ago) (3 weeks would be 21 days, i.e. May 29th)
People will be able to exercise outside more than once a day in Wales and some garden centres set to reopen, First Minister Mark Drakeford has said.
Announcing only "modest" changes to the coronavirus lockdown, Mr Drakeford warned it was "too soon" to go further.
The rest of the stay-at-home restrictions will be extended for another three weeks until 28 May.
Death rates from countries using comparable data. UK hardest hit. It's tragic.
https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-...bdd6-190101389
And sadly a reflection on the rather casual way our governments (UK and Wales) have handled this, seemingly always playing catch-up. The public have generally done all that has been asked of them in terms of hand washing, social distancing, stay at home etc.
Our leaders early on let sporting events continue..international rugby, Cheltenham festival. Then a declaration that the NHS was ready for anything, but it wasn’t. Lack of PPE, CCU beds, equipment, tracking and tracing, ignoring care homes. These are the things that mean the difference between life and death.
In Greece, a country that has been through an austerity episode that we can only imagine, they nailed it hard and fast, following the success of countries like South Korea.
1,000 deaths would have been too many, but 37, 000 is sickening and our leaders seem to indicate that we’ve done well
Agree with everything you’ve said there but would suggest dropping the description of “casual” for negligent and politically motivated.
Negligent rather than casual. Can only blame the UK govt for the late lockdown.
They did say 20,000 deaths would be good, but no one has mentioned that for a while.
Agree that we should have learned from countries that handled this better, and as I've posted elsewhere I think there was a degree of cultural arrogance that pervaded the thinking of those making the decisions in this that contributed to that.
I also think that 37000 is a very conservative estimate, most sources are talking about a number in excess of 60k in terms of excess deaths.
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