Are the Government's /any Governments' expectations of their citizens unrealistic ?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

There have been many comments in the media and authorities commenting on the 'worst crisis since the War'. In terms of getting killed/dying, I have no doubt, and to live for months on end listening for the sounds of bombers heading your way must have been awful.

But in 1939 the one thing people had was 'community'. They still went to work to meet colleagues, they still packed out the pubs at night, they could meet new people, hug one another, go to the cinema,go to dances, even hunker down together at night in air raid shelters/ undergound stations.

We are being asked - possibly for the next 9 months - to keep everyone at a distance. No socializing, no meeting a new girlfriend/boyfriend, no having a drink together - keeping a distance between all but the nearest and dearest.

That's going to be hard for a week, even harder for a couple of weeks, and a month, and another, and another ?

[EastbourneBlue]

There have been many comments in the media and authorities commenting on the 'worst crisis since the War'. In terms of getting killed/dying, I have no doubt, and to live for months on end listening for the sounds of bombers heading your way must have been awful.

But in 1939 the one thing people had was 'community'. They still went to work to meet colleagues, they still packed out the pubs at night, they could meet new people, hug one another, go to the cinema,go to dances, even hunker down together at night in air raid shelters/ undergound stations.

We are being asked - possibly for the next 9 months - to keep everyone at a distance. No socializing, no meeting a new girlfriend/boyfriend, no having a drink together - keeping a distance between all but the nearest and dearest.

That's going to be hard for a week, even harder for a couple of weeks, and a month, and another, and another ?

I’m in Shropshire and feel people started the week committed but have already waned on the isolation

[Taunton Blue Genie]

There have been many comments in the media and authorities commenting on the 'worst crisis since the War'. In terms of getting killed/dying, I have no doubt, and to live for months on end listening for the sounds of bombers heading your way must have been awful.

But in 1939 the one thing people had was 'community'. They still went to work to meet colleagues, they still packed out the pubs at night, they could meet new people, hug one another, go to the cinema,go to dances, even hunker down together at night in air raid shelters/ undergound stations.

We are being asked - possibly for the next 9 months - to keep everyone at a distance. No socializing, no meeting a new girlfriend/boyfriend, no having a drink together - keeping a distance between all but the nearest and dearest.

That's going to be hard for a week, even harder for a couple of weeks, and a month, and another, and another ?

Those people like me, who are single, may not even touch a human being for the rest of this year. Sobering thought but we have to get on with it.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Those people like me, who are single, may not even touch a human being for the rest of this year. Sobering thought but we have to get on with it.

Good luck mate.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Good luck mate.

I'm fine, thanks. Very robust. We have to support those who need it, that's for sure. Like married couples

[Heathblue]

I'm fine, thanks. Very robust. We have to support those who need it, that's for sure. Like married couples

Divorce rates through the roof shortly

[cyril evans awaydays]

There have been many comments in the media and authorities commenting on the 'worst crisis since the War'. In terms of getting killed/dying, I have no doubt, and to live for months on end listening for the sounds of bombers heading your way must have been awful.

But in 1939 the one thing people had was 'community'. They still went to work to meet colleagues, they still packed out the pubs at night, they could meet new people, hug one another, go to the cinema,go to dances, even hunker down together at night in air raid shelters/ undergound stations.

We are being asked - possibly for the next 9 months - to keep everyone at a distance. No socializing, no meeting a new girlfriend/boyfriend, no having a drink together - keeping a distance between all but the nearest and dearest.

That's going to be hard for a week, even harder for a couple of weeks, and a month, and another, and another ?

Nobody in the UK has died from Corvid 19. 6 people have died 'with it', but had other underlying critical conditions.

Flu' kills tens of thousands some yrs in the uk - other yrs 4/5000.

How the f**k can it be worse. The amount of bullshit this Govt. and others is feeding people is amazing..

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Nobody in the UK has died from Corvid 19. 6 people have died 'with it', but had other underlying critical conditions.

Flu' kills tens of thousands some yrs in the uk - other yrs 4/5000.

How the f**k can it be worse. The amount of bullshit this Govt. and others is feeding people is amazing..

I wouldn't disagree with a lot of what you say, but that aside, I'm suggesting it will be nigh impossible for the majority of people to sustain the levels of self-sacrifice Western Govts' are asking them to make..

[cyril evans awaydays]

I wouldn't disagree with a lot of what you say, but that aside, I'm suggesting it will be nigh impossible for the majority of people to sustain the levels of self-sacrifice Western Govts' are asking them to make..

You said it!!

[stevebrickman]

Nobody in the UK has died from Corvid 19. 6 people have died 'with it', but had other underlying critical conditions.

Flu' kills tens of thousands some yrs in the uk - other yrs 4/5000.

How the f**k can it be worse. The amount of bullshit this Govt. and others is feeding people is amazing..

Is everything ok? Are you feeling alright?

Have you seen what is happening in Italy and Spain?

The elderly are dropping like flies. Newspaper obituaries increasing from half a page to 10 pages in the Bergamo.


But don’t worry everyone... it’s just the flu.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Is everything ok? Are you feeling alright?

Have you seen what is happening in Italy and Spain?

The elderly are dropping like flies. Newspaper obituaries increasing from half a page to 10 pages in the Bergamo.


But don’t worry everyone... it’s just the flu.

Thanks. Feeling fine. Just playing back to the genius who started this post his exact words from a couple of weeks ago!

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Nobody in the UK has died from Corvid 19. 6 people have died 'with it', but had other underlying critical conditions.

Flu' kills tens of thousands some yrs in the uk - other yrs 4/5000.

How the f**k can it be worse. The amount of bullshit this Govt. and others is feeding people is amazing..

Is this the only website you visit?

[cyril evans awaydays]

Is this the only website you visit?

whooooosh

Sorry. Understand where you are coming from. Just that the Monkfish was singing from a different hymnsheet a few days ago

[Harry Paget Flashman]

whooooosh

Apologies - I don't follow yours or the brickies posts like a religion.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Apologies - I don't follow yours or the brickies posts like a religion.

No probs. My fault in this case!

[Welshcake.]

Nobody in the UK has died from Corvid 19. 6 people have died 'with it', but had other underlying critical conditions.

Flu' kills tens of thousands some yrs in the uk - other yrs 4/5000.

How the f**k can it be worse. The amount of bullshit this Govt. and others is feeding people is amazing..

Some dangerous ignorance here.

If 60% of the population catch it in the herd immunity situation or the population ignoring advice, we will have 250,000-600,000 deaths. It is significantly more contagious and more deadly than flu.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Some dangerous ignorance here.

If 60% of the population catch it in the herd immunity situation or the population ignoring advice, we will have 250,000-600,000 deaths. It is significantly more contagious and more deadly than flu.

It's almost like the guy who did the OP in this thread was responsible for my ignorance!

[NYCBlue]

Nobody in the UK has died from Corvid 19. 6 people have died 'with it', but had other underlying critical conditions.

Flu' kills tens of thousands some yrs in the uk - other yrs 4/5000.

How the f**k can it be worse. The amount of bullshit this Govt. and others is feeding people is amazing..

Because there's a vaccine for influenza and it's treatable. And how many of the people that flu "kills" die with it and not from it?

It's not just your government that's feeding you "bullshit", it's every government from China to Russia to the USA. And the world economy is tanking because of it. Do you think they're doing it for a laugh?

[Tuerto]

Because there's a vaccine for influenza and it's treatable. And how many of the people that flu "kills" die with it and not from it?

It's not just your government that's feeding you "bullshit", it's every government from China to Russia to the USA. And the world economy is tanking because of it. Do you think they're doing it for a laugh?

I feel Cyril's Pain...

[delmbox]

Nobody in the UK has died from Corvid 19. 6 people have died 'with it', but had other underlying critical conditions.

Flu' kills tens of thousands some yrs in the uk - other yrs 4/5000.

How the f**k can it be worse. The amount of bullshit this Govt. and others is feeding people is amazing..

Not digging you out here but I'm genuinely fascinated by people who are still saying this despite every virologist expert in the world saying different.

What do you think when you see headlines like this? Screenshot 2020-03-21 at 00.16.02.jpg

Being serious now - do you think the paper's lying? Or the Government? Or that 250000 cases is nothing? Or that 627 people dying in a single day in Italy from a virus that wasn't even in the country 3 weeks ago is no big deal?

Right at the start you could kind of understand cynicism, maybe even 10 days ago at a real push, but now? Arguing back and crying "bullshit" against the daily growing statistics, every world leader and expert in the world now? It takes a special type of person to think they're right and everybody else, including many many people who've studied this exact thing for decades, are wrong and I genuinely want to know what your rationale if you don't mind

EDIT: Also the frontline healthcare workers telling their horrendous stories of intensive care wards in the worst hit places and begging people in other countries to self isolate. What's your take on them?

[lisvaneblue]

Nobody in the UK has died from Corvid 19. 6 people have died 'with it', but had other underlying critical conditions.

Flu' kills tens of thousands some yrs in the uk - other yrs 4/5000.

How the f**k can it be worse. The amount of bullshit this Govt. and others is feeding people is amazing..

The science indicates that it is about 10 times more lethal than seasonal flu, and it is killing people. They develop pneumonia and die through inability to breath.

Scientists measure the the spread of an epidemic by a number called R0...ie how many people catch it from another person...The n umber for Covid-19 is 3.

So one person has it and passes it on to 3, then they to another 3 etc and in 15 moves it's gone from 1 person to 14,348,907.

So let's stop all this rubbish about it not being a big issue. It is a very big issue and currently the only thing we can do to help as individuals is to follow the advice being given by the experts

[Rogersblue]

The science indicates that it is about 10 times more lethal than seasonal flu, and it is killing people. They develop pneumonia and die through inability to breath.

Scientists measure the the spread of an epidemic by a number called R0...ie how many people catch it from another person...The n umber for Covid-19 is 3.

So one person has it and passes it on to 3, then they to another 3 etc and in 15 moves it's gone from 1 person to 14,348,907.

So let's stop all this rubbish about it not being a big issue. It is a very big issue and currently the only thing we can do to help as individuals is to follow the advice being given by the experts

even experts can be wrong,depends who's paying them.

[lisvaneblue]

even experts can be wrong,depends who's paying them.

Well, they've got a better chance of being right than you

[Rogersblue]

Well, they've got a better chance of being right than you

ok mr expert.

[Pearcey3]

From what I heard tonight it seems there will be periods when the lockdown will be relaxed before being ramped up again. So there may be times when things are more relaxed.