Reply With QuoteI feel Cyril's Pain...Originally Posted by NYCBlue
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Because there's a vaccine for influenza and it's treatable. And how many of the people that flu "kills" die with it and not from it?
It's not just your government that's feeding you "bullshit", it's every government from China to Russia to the USA. And the world economy is tanking because of it. Do you think they're doing it for a laugh?
I feel Cyril's Pain...
There’s some whooshing going on in this thread.
Not digging you out here but I'm genuinely fascinated by people who are still saying this despite every virologist expert in the world saying different.
What do you think when you see headlines like this? Screenshot 2020-03-21 at 00.16.02.jpg
Being serious now - do you think the paper's lying? Or the Government? Or that 250000 cases is nothing? Or that 627 people dying in a single day in Italy from a virus that wasn't even in the country 3 weeks ago is no big deal?
Right at the start you could kind of understand cynicism, maybe even 10 days ago at a real push, but now? Arguing back and crying "bullshit" against the daily growing statistics, every world leader and expert in the world now? It takes a special type of person to think they're right and everybody else, including many many people who've studied this exact thing for decades, are wrong and I genuinely want to know what your rationale if you don't mind
EDIT: Also the frontline healthcare workers telling their horrendous stories of intensive care wards in the worst hit places and begging people in other countries to self isolate. What's your take on them?
Lazy reading, coming on and reading the last few posts of a thread.
Its like skipping the first chapter of a book!
Poor old Cyril
The pubs will be ****ing packed.
Lazy reading, coming on and reading the last few posts of a thread.
Its like skipping the first chapter of a book!
Poor old Cyril
It's a feckin fantastic thread too!
Pity they didn't read from the start, they've missed out BIG time LOLz.
Nice one Cyril
I should imagine the situation will require military deployment if it continues more than a couple of weeks. People are losing thei shit over here already. I think it's the uncertainty.
It was reading the first posts and responding before reading the whole thread actually.Lazy reading, coming on and reading the last few posts of a thread.
Its like skipping the first chapter of a book!
Poor old Cyril
the 10 days of darkness is still to come,when we have no internet or media coverage
The science indicates that it is about 10 times more lethal than seasonal flu, and it is killing people. They develop pneumonia and die through inability to breath.
Scientists measure the the spread of an epidemic by a number called R0...ie how many people catch it from another person...The n umber for Covid-19 is 3.
So one person has it and passes it on to 3, then they to another 3 etc and in 15 moves it's gone from 1 person to 14,348,907.
So let's stop all this rubbish about it not being a big issue. It is a very big issue and currently the only thing we can do to help as individuals is to follow the advice being given by the experts
even experts can be wrong,depends who's paying them.
Well, they've got a better chance of being right than youeven experts can be wrong,
ok mr expert.
Well, such is the desire, or need, of some people to have their daily fix of alcohol, I can foresee a lot more problems for supermarkets and even the return of the sort of speakeasy establishments seen in prohibition hit America because I'm sure there are those who will still look to make money out of people's desperation even with the risks involved.
For myself, the Government have made the right decision here - in fact it should have happened days ago when Johnson trusted people to use common sense and avoid using pubs, clubs, restaurants etc.
As Helen Mirren might have said (Calendar Girls) 'we need considerably bigger whooshes'!
Whooosh sorry now? Me for starters!As Helen Mirren might have said (Calendar Girls) 'we need considerably bigger whooshes'!
According to Wikipedia, in the UK, half a million people die every year, from all causes. That's 10,000 people dying every week.
The current deaths associated with COVID-19 have added maybe 100 a week to that figure.
What we're being asked to do is tough. What we're asking the vulnerable to do is tougher still. But, given the choice between facetiming a loved one and dropping stuff off in a letterbox or seeing an elderly woman being unable to visit her husband on his death bed, and then being unable to attend his funeral, and him being buried in a different town - well I think a few months without a pub is a price worth paying. Granted, not everyone will feel this way but I have a feeling we either comply, or we'll be forced to comply. I'd rather the first option.
You do realise we are only at the very start of this right?
I honestly believe that, if we do as we're told, the situation will be terrible but controllable. Treatment will improve, identifying people who are immune will improve, and the picture will get clearer.
He's right though. The leading scientist worked on ebola and is working off data that is available. The data needs to improve. Given a choice of listening to Prof Whitty, or that complete cretin that runs Wetherspoons (I wonder why he disagrees with the experts again, nothing to do with self interest) I think I'll go with the prof.ok mr expert.
China - 25 days of a rise in active cases before it started declining. It is still on the decline.
Italy - I would say they are on day 20 of significant rises in cases.
Spain - I would say they are on day 13
Germany - Day 13 - although they do more testing than other countries which may mean they are only on day 9 or 10
Iran - Day 21 and there is a decline in active cases today
USA - Day 10
South Korea, 20 days, and a gradual decline (much slower than China). Day 27, the decline is more significant
France - Day 15
Switzerland - Day 13, but getting significant last few days
UK - Day 13 of significant rises
China and South Korea the only countries in decline, Iran had a slight decline today, all three took three weeks to get to a declining stage.
We're not being asked to do all this in reaction to all the deaths so far, we're being asked to do it to prevent all the potential deaths in the future. That's being said over and over, why is it so difficult to understand that your reaction on hearing it is to go and Wikipedia how many people die of anything? That's nuts.
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