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Thread: Why is this Virus Worse in Spain & Italy?

  1. #61

    Re: Why is this Virus Worse in Spain & Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    So you are saying the experts acted illegally or were morally wrong in what they told the government?
    Doesn't matter, Governments are advised on hundreds of topics. They either decide to take that advice or not, in short, it's their shout and they take responsibility, a bit like a football manager has to do when he spends 6 million quid on a bunk striker, he would've had scouting reports although the responsibility for the players success or failure is his.

  2. #62

    Re: Why is this Virus Worse in Spain & Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    So you are saying the experts acted illegally or were morally wrong in what they told the government?
    This man is the Deputy Scientific Advisor at the Home Office.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...-boris-johnson

    As I posted a week ago before being shot down, people with views contrary to Neil Ferguson's are beginning to gain sufficient confidence to voice their opinions..

  3. #63

    Re: Why is this Virus Worse in Spain & Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    This man is the Deputy Scientific Advisor at the Home Office.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...-boris-johnson

    As I posted a week ago before being shot down, people with views contrary to Neil Ferguson's are beginning to gain sufficient confidence to voice their opinions..
    To be fair, you were shot down for saying that the media and politicians were being drama queens. And this was less than a month ago, when we were well into it.

  4. #64

    Re: Why is this Virus Worse in Spain & Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    So you are saying the experts acted illegally or were morally wrong in what they told the government?
    I honestly don't see why you would ask that based on the reply I gave you, but I'll answer, no, not illegally. Imorally is a bit more difficult, I hesitate to say that, but the original herd mentality theorising would, by general agreement I'd say now, have led to tens of thousands more deaths. That should have set alarm bells among the politicians and I'm pretty sure I would have viewed it as a real last resort if I had been in the Government, yet it seems they were willing to go along with this until a report was published showing the extent of the death and suffering this would cause.

    As I have mentioned on here previously, it has struck me that there was something of the same sort of feeling of experimentation you sometimes see in times of economic crisis in official thinking initially and, even when the decision was made to go for a policy of social distancing, Boris Johnson especially seemed reluctant to commit fully to it. Therefore , while I wouldn't say Government or officials were morally wrong, they did seem willing to see more die when most of the world was talking in terms of testing and social isolation.

  5. #65

    Re: Why is this Virus Worse in Spain & Italy?

    From this weeks private eye:

    Whatís most striking about Britainís idiosyncratic approach to tackling the coronavirus pandemic is the lack of public support from senior scientists and public health experts outside the government circle.

    Most support Johnsonís belated attempt at a lockdown but the worry is the U.K. is 2 weeks behind the curve, particularly in London.

    Many believe he wasted 9 weeks on nuanced nudging when the evidence from China and Italy was tougher methods were needed. Many remain incredulous at the lack of contact tracing, not just in the community but of NHS staff, who donít know if they have it so err on the side of caution and stay off work.

    Johnson has ignored the evidence based advice of the WHO and gone it alone.
    So thatís Elwoodís science defence of his beloved Tory leader blown out the water.

    Thereís also an article about him being resistant to being too quickly by the science. He was recommended to close bars and schools in February - which they didnít do until late March. Might have been a chance we would have not had as many deaths and not had to crash the economy then.

  6. #66

    Re: Why is this Virus Worse in Spain & Italy?

    The question will also be asked: to some extent we had time on our side. Why are our deaths similar to those those countries which didn’t (Italy) and against those countries (like us) which did (Germany/Denmark/Norway)?

    https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...53002392637440
    Can we make sure we ask this question when this nightmare is over? Can we make sure we ask why there was such slow move towards daily briefings and an even slower move to follow up questions in those briefings? Can we ask why there is such a lack of equipment, that not every source has been tapped, and why we're now asking those with a 3D printer to get involved?

  7. #67

    Re: Why is this Virus Worse in Spain & Italy?

    Thatís the thing itís the slow response and lack of preparedness thatís ****ed everything.

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