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    Testing kits were readily available for Charlie big ears and his family but not available for people on the front line like doctors and nurses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles View Post
    Testing kits were readily available for Charlie big ears and his family but not available for people on the front line like doctors and nurses.
    Which testing kits are you referring to?

    Deputy CMO made Peston look an utter idiot to the extent Peston whined the guy had been vicious to him.

    Tests indicating someone has previously *had* the virus is utterly different to those indicating someone *currently has* the virus.

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    Earlier this week, Health Minister Vaughan Gething said details about how testing capacity in Wales will increase further are set to be released on April 2.

    He confirmed that 1,000 frontline NHS workers had been tested for the virus so far.

    2000 in england
    The Royal College of Physicians, the Royal College of Nursing and the British Medical Association all say testing of frontline staff is desperately needed.

    Across Wales, the Aneurin Bevan health board continues to have the highest number of recorded cases with 681.

    Cardiff and the Vale has the second highest number with 640 cases.

    Health officials have warned the number of cases of the virus in Wales' is likely to be much higher than current totals show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Which testing kits are you referring to?

    Deputy CMO made Peston look an utter idiot to the extent Peston whined the guy had been vicious to him.

    Tests indicating someone has previously *had* the virus is utterly different to those indicating someone *currently has* the virus.
    None of which is anything to do with the point you were answering. I saw it reported that out of half a million staff who could be labelled "front line" in the NHS, only two thousand had been tested for the virus, not whether they had it previously - that's still some way away yet I understand, despite other countries, seemingly, having had access to it for weeks. The very fact Johnson had to clarify earlier comments made by the minister representing the Government in last night's briefing rather tells a story of their defensiveness on something which is a bit of a national embarrassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    None of which is anything to do with the point you were answering. I saw it reported that out of half a million staff who could be labelled "front line" in the NHS, only two thousand had been tested for the virus, not whether they had it previously - that's still some way away yet I understand, despite other countries, seemingly, having had access to it for weeks. The very fact Johnson had to clarify earlier comments made by the minister representing the Government in last night's briefing rather tells a story of their defensiveness on something which is a bit of a national embarrassment.
    Peston was intimating that tests showing if someone previously had the virus could be used to check if someone currently had it, so yeah was directly to do with the point.

    Is it as much a national embarassment as Germany running out of testing kits now because they previously tested anyone who requested a test, even if having no symptoms?

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    Re: These testing kits that Michael Gove says are unavailable

    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Peston was intimating that tests showing if someone previously had the virus could be used to check if someone currently had it, so yeah was directly to do with the point.

    Is it as much a national embarassment as Germany running out of testing kits now because they previously tested anyone who requested a test, even if having no symptoms?
    No it's more - the relative figures of us and Germany tell you it is. To be honest you sound like someone who is still seeing things in party political terms when that's the last thing we should be thinking of now.

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    Re: These testing kits that Michael Gove says are unavailable

    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Peston was intimating that tests showing if someone previously had the virus could be used to check if someone currently had it, so yeah was directly to do with the point.

    Is it as much a national embarassment as Germany running out of testing kits now because they previously tested anyone who requested a test, even if having no symptoms?
    To my understanding, you're confusing two stories but ultimately have seen something I hadn't so thank you anyway.

    Shortage of chemical:

    So government source says - which is true - that there is a global shortage of the reagent. As it happens
    @CMO_England said this a couple of weeks ago, as has head of CDC in US. But that still doesn't explain why Chemicals Industry Assoc thinks its members, could help find a solution if asked by the government. And it also doesn't explain - as I pointed out in a PM press conference earlier in the month - why the government didn't forward plan by buying stocks of ingredients for the testing kits weeks ago, before demand from rich countries soared.

    Preston: https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1245068919586590720

    Testing two different things:

    I am pleased that so many of you are deriving pleasure from the way that Jonathan Van Tam slapped down my question about whether a Chinese test for antibodies - which the government has spent millions of pounds buying - could detect live #Covid19 virus, as its makers claim Just to be clear, I do understand the difference between an antibody and an antigen test. What I wanted to gauge was whether this rapid antibody test could help solve the problem of insufficient PCR (antigen) testing capacity. This was not an unreasonable line of inquiry,

    Preston: https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1245637309023715328

    I would highlight that some basic things are true:

    i) This is not the first time where different fields have been discussed by government only for senior members of those fields to announce their surprise as had not been contacted and don't fully understand what is being said
    ii) The story is moving so fast that difficult to keep up and media would be wise to have running timeline of what was said and when
    iii) There was pre-warning (back when we were trying to work out if Big Ben could bong for Brexit) and now we're on the backfoot trying to catch up when this didn't need to be the case
    iv) Staffing levels have been reduced due to lack of testing, we have missed out unnecessarily on source of equipment by not joining up with EU, there has been a lack of clarity in information given by government.
    v) People are getting angrier and we haven't hit the peak yet.

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