Reply With QuoteOh ''one more heave'' Smith, the do nothing, say nothing type approach guy,
with a hint of Blairsm you say, many say that guy is a bigger Tory than Mrs Thatcher was.
Unionist parties are nationalist parties any party that believes in borders are.
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Just more centraist like a John Smith labour type vision with a hint of Blarism, not keen on nationalism in any shape or formOriginally Posted by trampie09
Oh ''one more heave'' Smith, the do nothing, say nothing type approach guy,
with a hint of Blairsm you say, many say that guy is a bigger Tory than Mrs Thatcher was.
Unionist parties are nationalist parties any party that believes in borders are.
Gosh are you saying Smith was a bigger Tory than Thatcher or Blair ?? those quotes are very new to me .
Yes they were centralists within a Labour party , ( Smith less so than Blair ) ,yes they were modernists, but more right wing than Thatcher !!!!! maybe stretching it in my view .
As you say '('one more heave ") this is my final reply I just want to avoid repeating myself , you have my view on record I'm a centralists socialist , who thinks we should move on from the old socialist model , think new and better than Tories , as Labour since Blair has failed to attract the imagination of voters, in fact they have lost many of them, feel free to quote or bookmark my view .
I said many think that Blair was a bigger Tory than Mrs Thatcher was, not Smith.
You say you are a centralist socialist, what is that ?, to me a Socialist is someone out on the left of the political spectrum therefore a centralist Socialist would be halfway between been being a standard left winger and being a fully fledged Communist.
It strikes me you are a centralist right winger and not on the left at all.
I have a question for you 'life on mars' who have you voted for in General Elections over the years ?
I voted Foot in 83 and Plaid ever since, Labour abandoned me and not the other way around after Foot, I have stood true (on a political graph) to my political leanings all my voting life.
Which party or parties have you voted for over the years 'life on mars' ?
Voted Labour all my life , until Corbyn , loathed the man, I hold him responsible and his backers for destroying the party . They had a great chance to beat a poor Tory party under May , however Infighting and partly ideology destroyed that moment .
Did you vote for Foot ?
and who did you vote for if you did not vote for Corbyn ?
I did vote for Foot , think he even won ore seats than Corbyn , gosh they were different times , I would not repeat that now in this modern and different world , yep I was young and still tainted by Thatcher .
This time around and last I voted for L.D . , as it had a few decent ex Labour MP,s, I will admit though as with other abour voters I hovered over the Tory tick box ( just to halt the Corbyn machine ) thankfully millions of other Labour voters took that decision for me.
So what was wrong with Corbyn ?
the alternative leaders from the other big Westminster parties were Boris and Swinson who imo were worse.
As I said it was a personal and bad taste choice, as I think the man is not that nice an individual , and I found the machinery and people behind him even more repellent .
Simple as that , yes more repellant than Boris or Swinson , I blame Corbynsim for destroying the party , or was that the plan??
He did seem to hold the core beliefs and values of Labour, I think that the press did a disingenuous number on him and now some leaked document seems to suggest that right wing infiltrators (red Tories if you like) into the party did a number on him actively wanting him to lose, was the headlines I seen.
Did you vote for Ed Milliband?
Who did you vote for in the last two general elections if it wasn't Corbyn?
Already told Trampie keep up
You're saying that you voted for Miliband and then Farron and then Swinson? Is that correct?
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