Reply With QuoteAfew "if's" in there. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride, my old dad used to say.Originally Posted by trampie09
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Good point. In all honesty we don't have all the facts but governments have been caught out and found wanting in these exceptional times. What irks me is some are very quick to crucify Cardiff Bay in an almost default stance. If they think the crisis is being handled any better here in England ( or Scotland/NI), then tuning in to BBC Midlands, or BBC Scotland etc. should persuade you otherwise.
Afew "if's" in there. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride, my old dad used to say.
As I said in another post, it id not a political thing it is just that governments are never good at detail. They think and do the big things then others have to sort it out. It has ever been so and ever will be.
I am no fan of drakeford despite being a labour voter but the disastrous response to this pandemic goes right through england , scotland and wales
The central blame lies with the conservative government in westminster who should have taken an immediate decision to start getting in supplies for all the countries of the uk , started lockdown a lot earlier etc
At a time of national crisis pissing about with issues like devolved government is a load of arse
I agrere with that, but if they had done that ther'd have been a hue and cry from those who loved devolved government howling that the Westminster government was interfering with devolved matters which were none of its concern. Sad as it is sludge, you know it would have happened.
another no win situation.
Because they're only testng suspected cases and health workers, not the general population? It seems like the Welsh Government are changing their minds quite often. Gethin has said that the testing target has been dropped due to numbers of cases not being as big as they thought it might be when the announcement for 5000 tests per day were announced. Then he talks about PPE shortage, saying that they're looking at doing a dea with Amazon. It's pretty much the same in England. Wales has tested 26000 people so far according to the article i read.
Drakeford's an embarrassment full stop. Anyone who makes Nicola Sturgeon seem statesmanlike shouldn't be anywhere near the position he holds. Made himself look a right plum when he jumped the gun with the lockdown announcement last week before the UK briefing. Puffed up with his own importance him and his cronies couldn't even get shielding letters to the right people.
To be fair boris has been statesmanlike
Hes run a superb show
Ask anyone in england , they are full of praise for the chap
Tally ho and all that
To be fair, perhaps Drakesford jumped the gun by a day deliberately due to the Bank holiday weekend? Given the shocking numbers crossing the border to Snowdonia etc. the previous weekend ( as well as our own home grown bell ends), trying to emphasise Wales was in lockdown and getting headlines prior to them leaving was a good move in my humble opinion.
LoM, I was being very sarcastic in regards LisvaneBlue compared sourcing and procuring the hundreds of thousands Covid19 tests needed to ordering ky jelly and picking up from Boots.
That said, I’m visiting the local pharmacy later and on very good terms with Jo and I’m going to ask in there if they got any spare.
On a serious note, this pandemic has raised the mechanisms of government (UK and Welsh) in relation to ability to cope in the future. Let’s hope the lessons of this particular learning curve are taken on board.
Oooops sorry .
Keep safe 👍
Errrrrrm.....
Issit a donkey ?
I would never compare a donkey to Alun 'cover-up' Cairns.
Did you know that outside of inner london , oxford east is the only labour seat in the south east of england ?
If the tories put forward a donkey in south east england , it would get elected
I'm surpised you said "If" lmao
Just been reading about another Welsh health worry .
Sepsis cases are very high in Wales, didn't realise it was such a killer claiming around 37k a year within the UK .
Read last night that about 120-150,000 people in the world die of typhoid every year and between 11 and 20 million catch it. given there has been a vacinne for this for over a century that is unbelievable.
The tory seats in wales have always been marginals , in 2017 alun cairns held onto his vale seat by the skin of his teeth , in 2019 , despite lots of controversy he held on , due in part to the let's get brexit done mantraI'm surpised you said "If" lmao
That isn't what I meant, I'd imagine you think half of the tory MPs in the south of england already are donkeys.
Yeh right
"Nurse shortage causes Nightingale hospital to turn away patients'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...y_to_clipboard
I disagree , the vast majority of tory mps in the government , never mind the south east , are donkeys
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-in-four-weeks
I’ll just leave this here.
How long do we think the inevitable public inquiry will take?
For what it's worth, I believe the Conservative Government of the UK have made a very poor job of dealing with the virus over the last three months or more, but anyone hoping to make a party political type argument by favourably comparing how the Labour Government in Wales have done with it is taking on a very tough, possibly impossible, task.
Seems like you are making a party political argument. For what it's worth, I believe the Welsh Assembly and Government is better than the Westminster Parliament and Government, but I'm not making a political type argument I'm just responding to your observations.
I’ve said previously, I don’t think any of the UK governments have done well at the handling and management of the crisis. There are a number of factors for that which have all been discussed so I’m not going to go over old ground. What particularly is concerning though is a number of decisions may have been undertaken due to political ideology, laziness and a rather misjudged attitude to any facts presented to them, rather than common sense.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52369916
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