Better than England or better than parts of England, like London?Originally Posted by trampie09
In what way has Drakeford done better?
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Better than England or better than parts of England, like London?
In what way has Drakeford done better?
He hasn't told anyone to shake hands with virus sufferers?
Repeating yourself this evening, eh? Need more material.
When did Johnson tell others to shake hands btw?
I know I keep coming back to that, but it's like - what's the WORST thing that he could possibly have said at that point in the pandemic.
If it was on the thick of it it would be hilarious.
Imagine being one of his advisors having to try to spin their way out of the mess he makes every time he opens his mouth without thinking. Must be one of the most difficult jobs in politics.
Why do you think Boris followed Nicola's lead ?
All about stopping the spread of the virus, England has no jury trials either after following others.
It might have been the Welsh that did the education thing first, the Welsh definitely did something first that preempted the UK Government.
You're making assumptions about cause and effect. Pretty definite schools was a UK decision, which Sturgeon deliberately and cynically gave out early. Maybe you can explain why she'd do that.
Stopping the spread of the virus, no, it's about slowing the rate the virus spreads.
I'd be interested to know what Welsh gov did first, if any.
Social distancing laws, announcing tough lockdown measures and now putting forward a framework to get out of lockdown.
Laws, eh? That's an interesting view... lawmaking isn't to the best of my knowledge a devolved issue.
Framework for getting out of lockdown is almost certainly an agreed UK policy being leaked early for political capital.
I've just found the info and I was right, the Welsh announced school closures first on 18 March, followed by Sturgeon and the Northern Irish then last of all to fall line was Boris.
Not doubting you, trampie, can you pass a link to that info ta.
Announced by Mark Drakeford on 3 April and came into law on 7 April, requiring employers in Wales to comply with the two metre social distancing rule.
Hmm, again not sure lawmaking is a devolved power in Wales.
Wales have had full lawmaking powers in devolved areas since 2011
Where’s that Russian Report
There are a lot of things you are not sure about, lol, never mind old Trampie puts you straight.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...age-not-enough
You only need to go to the 'live feed' last update of the day at 18.26 entitled 'Evening summary' and there it is at the start of the first paragraph.
Ah the gardian update. that might explain why I missed it.
All that says is it was announced first. You're taking that to mean Wales made a decision first and everyone else had to follow... whereas it's almost certain it was a UK decision, some nations decided to reveal it earlier than others.
Why is that "almost certain"
Whilst education is devolved I find it hard to believe one nation decided off it's own back to close and then in an incredibly short period of time three other nations then decided to follow suit...
The conservatives were very reluctant to close the schools, there were various statements saying that in italy it made things worse because kids went to stay with the grandparents etc. and it would have a disastrous effect on business.
I didn't hear such statements from Wales or Scotland
It seems very unlikely to me that they all reached the same decision, but wales closed on the one day and Boris thought lets give the kids an extra couple of days in school for some reason
You said Sturgeon gave the information out early to look good, but the Welsh announced school closures before she did.
Education is a devolved matter in Wales and Scotland so they can make their own decisions.
Hate to break it to you, trampie but more people listen to Sturgeon than Drakeford... and gets more media coverage.
So as the NHS is also devolved they can presumably take their own decisions on that too, so the Westminster government are not responsible of the lack of PPE, the failure ot hit targets and the slow rate of roll out of testing in Wales after all.
It is the responsibility of evolved government and as you so rightly say they can make their own decisions.
Trampie, have you considered your reply to my comment on this post yet? Just interested on your take on it.
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