This NHS app

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Firstly how do you know what qualifications I have to comment and what gives you the right to decide who comments or not ? Who are you to decide that the Governments preferred system is inferior anyway. What factual knowledge are you basing your opinion on. All your posts are politically biased against the Government, so right back at you with all that crap. I was giving my opinions and you and a few others don't like it.

WTF?

How do I know what qualifications you have? I don't. That's why I asked. That's what I do if I don't know something. I try and find out from source.

What knowledge do I have that a government's preferred system is inferior? Just comments from very knowledgable tech guys on a world leading tech site. What knowledge do you have that the government's system is superior? Please answer from a position of knowledge or reference point of knowledge.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Exactly, this is the question that's making me wonder. "Britain does it it's own way" hasn't really gone too well since the beginning of this with the herd immunity debacle. I wonder if dml1954 would admit that that idea was one of the all time worst or do we all blindly follow the government retrospectively as well

If the government told us to insert watermelons up our arse as tracking mechanisms he'd agree with it, once he'd pulled the Dominic Cummings dildo out first.

[The Lone Gunman]

I think I read on the BBC that it's 80%. They said as a comparison that 67% of the population have Whattsapp downloaded

I wonder how such a figure is obtained? Personally, I find 67% with WhatsApp very difficult to believe. I also think a target of 80% for the Covid-19 app is unrealistic.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I wonder how such a figure is obtained? Personally, I find 67% with WhatsApp very difficult to believe. I also think a target of 80% for the Covid-19 app is unrealistic.

Agreed. The only way there could be a target for the app is for people to know not to go to certain areas.

[delmbox]

I wonder how such a figure is obtained? Personally, I find 67% with WhatsApp very difficult to believe. I also think a target of 80% for the Covid-19 app is unrealistic.

I agree that 80% is unrealistic, it says here that Whattsapp's "reach" is 67% though

https://ukom.uk.net/insights/172-wha...k-audience.php

[The Lone Gunman]

I agree that 80% is unrealistic, it says here that Whattsapp's "reach" is 67% though

https://ukom.uk.net/insights/172-wha...k-audience.php

I read the BBC piece just now. It says it would need 80% of UK smartphone users which apparently equates to 60% of the population. Good luck to them with that.

[delmbox]

I read the BBC piece just now. It says it would need 80% of UK smartphone users which apparently equates to 60% of the population. Good luck to them with that.

Ah ok, yeah still a big ask

[life on mars]

Hopefully people will download it and it may save life or two ( sorry for my positivness )

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Hopefully people will download it and it may save life or two ( sorry for my positivness )

Or people could download something better that would be of benefit not to Britain but further afield as well.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I am probably going to steer clear of the app. Open to abuse from edgy teenagers, privacy concerns from a lot of those pesky experts and potentially considered illegal. Also I don't really go anywhere anyway.

You need to get out more.

[Eric Cartman]

I wonder how such a figure is obtained? Personally, I find 67% with WhatsApp very difficult to believe. I also think a target of 80% for the Covid-19 app is unrealistic.

Operation 'shame everybody who won't download because they have legitimate unanswered concerns' isn't in full swing yet though.

[Eric Cartman]

You need to get out more.

That is my main concern, im embarrassed Dom and gchq will laugh at how few contacts I have 🙁

[Hilts]

I wonder how such a figure is obtained? Personally, I find 67% with WhatsApp very difficult to believe. I also think a target of 80% for the Covid-19 app is unrealistic.

Too low or high?

Quick look at my contacts. Out of 96 , 72 have Whats App.

Im not convinced that there will be as many downloading this app though.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I wonder how such a figure is obtained? Personally, I find 67% with WhatsApp very difficult to believe. I also think a target of 80% for the Covid-19 app is unrealistic.

56% is a figure quoted by a body of Oxford University academics advising NHSX: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52294896

Mentioned in that article is the fact that only 12% of the population of Singapore used a similar tracking system - and that country is arguably more compliant than the UK population and at least as IT savvy, I would guess.

[the other bob wilson]

The Government are trying to introduce a track and trace via app system that is being used successfully in countries like South Korea as a way of controlling the virus spread and bring the country out of lockdown. All they are receiving is unwarranted criticism and suspicion. There are better things to worry about. Everyone should get behind it. If it doesn't get enough take up then it is likely that in another three months we will still be in full lockdown. Nothing to do with politics, although most of what you post on the subject makes you sound like a left wing soundbox to be honest. I also get the impression from quite a few people on this board that if Labour were in power, everybody would welcome the same app proposal with open arms. People have got nothing better to do than criticise without having any idea about how they would deal with the situation.

I was listening to a specialist in the sort of tech involved being interviewed on 5 Live yesterday about the app. She was concerned that the Government were trying to run before they could walk on this subject and that the App needed to be part of coordinated plan which she said was not in place yet and she also thought there would be problems because the app used a system that only the French one would be compatible with thereby putting us out of step with most other countries who were using a different system.

I don't know enough about the App to have an opinion on it either way yet and so am not sure whether I'd use it or not, but what I do want to say is that this professor was an American who now lives in this country and many of the negative responses she got back were purely because she was a foreigner. There was also the usual why are the BBC so negative, they should support the Government stuff, along with the implication that anyone who is critical of the Government is somehow being unpatriotic.

With very little respect, that's exactly how you come over, your opinions sound like they are based on blind, unquestioning loyalty to the Government and you are incredulous that anyone could think differently to you.

[The Lone Gunman]

Too low or high?

Quick look at my contacts. Out of 96 , 72 have Whats App.

Delbox originally suggested that 67% of the population have downloaded WhatsApp, but the figure is apparently 67% of people who own a smartphone, which is more realistic.

[life on mars]

Or people could download something better that would be of benefit not to Britain but further afield as well.

Its been developed by GCHQ to avoid it being hacked by rouge hackers and stats forget the rest lets keep us safe for hackers as states that sponsor such activities , apple and google already have their variants such as privately developed app, Corona 100m, Coronamap.

[Heisenberg]

Its been developed by GCHQ to avoid it being hacked by rouge hackers and stats forget the rest lets keep us safe for hackers as states that sponsor such activities , apple and google already have their variants such as privately developed app, Corona 100m, Coronamap.

I hope they catch them all red handed, the bastards!

[life on mars]

I was listening to a specialist in the sort of tech involved being interviewed on 5 Live yesterday about the app. She was concerned that the Government were trying to run before they could walk on this subject and that the App needed to be part of coordinated plan which she said was not in place yet and she also thought there would be problems because the app used a system that only the French one would be compatible with thereby putting us out of step with most other countries who were using a different system.

I don't know enough about the App to have an opinion on it either way yet and so am not sure whether I'd use it or not, but what I do want to say is that this professor was an American who now lives in this country and many of the negative responses she got back were purely because she was a foreigner. There was also the usual why are the BBC so negative, they should support the Government stuff, along with the implication that anyone who is critical of the Government is somehow being unpatriotic.

With very little respect, that's exactly how you come over, your opinions sound like they are based on blind, unquestioning loyalty to the Government and you are incredulous that anyone could think differently to you.

Our blind opposition to any thing a government attempt to do , to make life better ?

There is a two way story in life , one can only hope the government of the day are trying to look after us , or you think they are up to something ???

I always wonder what the thoughts /comments of folk would be different if it was a different government in power , hey I 'm sure I'm wrong .

I would love to here from Sir Keir 's or the Liberals more often if I'm honest however I'm guessing they are in the same unknown dark place as the current government is where one has never experienced anything like this in our lifetime ??

[Elwood Blues]

That is my main concern, im embarrassed Dom and gchq will laugh at how few contacts I have 🙁

They probably know already!!

[splott parker]

Its been developed by GCHQ to avoid it being hacked by rouge hackers and stats forget the rest lets keep us safe for hackers as states that sponsor such activities , apple and google already have their variants such as privately developed app, Corona 100m, Coronamap.

I’m crimson with rage at these rouge hackers

[Eric Cartman]

They probably know already!!

Yeah but at least I haven't directly consented to it.

[Eric Cartman]

Our blind opposition to any thing a government attempt to do , to make life better ?

There is a two way story in life , one can only hope the government of the day are trying to look after us , or you think they are up to something ???

I always wonder what the thoughts /comments of folk would be different if it was a different government in power , hey I 'm sure I'm wrong .

I would love to here from Sir Keir 's or the Liberals more often if I'm honest however I'm guessing they are in the same unknown dark place as the current government is where one has never experienced anything like this in our lifetime ??

You (and others) need to find a more convincing attack line. People have very real concerns about how this app operates and the information it needlessly collects. Government were aware this was the case and that it could affect the uptake. Pretending that everyone who has concerns if either mental (comparing to 5g conspiracy theorists and anti vaxers) or entirely politically motivated is disingenuous.

Debate the topic and stop resorting to this childish shite.

[delmbox]

Delbox originally suggested that 67% of the population have downloaded WhatsApp, but the figure is apparently 67% of people who own a smartphone, which is more realistic.

Yes Delbox made an error, which The One Gunman has kindly clarified for the group

[lardy]

Yes Delbox made an error, which The One Gunman has kindly clarified for the group

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