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    Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52605310

    I really struggle to understand this. Why don't they take them back to France/Belgium and disembark them there? That is where the came from. Those countries have an obligation in international and European Law to either give them refugee status or return to where the came from. They should be processed at the point at which they enter the EU.

    And why is it they all want to come to UK? Whats wrong with Spain or France or Italy or Belgium or Greece?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52605310

    I really struggle to understand this. Why don't they take them back to France/Belgium and disembark them there? That is where the came from. Those countries have an obligation in international and European Law to either give them refugee status or return to where the came from. They should be processed at the point at which they enter the EU.

    And why is it they all want to come to UK? Whats wrong with Spain or France or Italy or Belgium or Greece?
    It's our colonial past for a lot of them mr x , we are seen as the mother country due to our time when we ruled the waves , same reason why so many head to holland

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    I saw this on the news earlier, on chanel number 5.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    I saw this on the news earlier, on chanel number 5.
    The perfume ?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    The perfume ?
    lol

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    lol
    Could this be a whoosh?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Could this be a whoosh?
    100% whoosh, I got what you did and liked it a hell of a lot

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    100% whoosh, I got what you did and liked it a hell of a lot
    Thank-you.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's our colonial past for a lot of them mr x , we are seen as the mother country due to our time when we ruled the waves , same reason why so many head to holland
    No its not. it's because they see this country as a soft touch, but more to blame are the french and others that deliberately don't take the action they should because they hope that the problem will go away when they get to the channel (Not the perfume lol)

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    No its not. it's because they see this country as a soft touch
    I hear this a lot. Is it because they can get our benefits or our jobs?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I hear this a lot. Is it because they can get our benefits or our jobs?


    Of course, being "illegal" immigrants it must be dead easy to get on the dole. What with the absence of a NI Number.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post


    Of course, being "illegal" immigrants it must be dead easy to get on the dole. What with the absence of a NI Number.
    There are many ways to earn a lvivng with a legit NI Number as I'm sure people know.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    There are many ways to earn a lvivng with a legit NI Number as I'm sure people know.
    How does an illegal immigrant get a legit NI Number?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    But the point is the country they arrive in should deal with them but these European countries just let them pass through happy in the knowledge that the sooner they let them go they sooner it won't be their problem.
    So if the get here why don't those countries cover the cost to the UK?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    But the point is the country they arrive in should deal with them but these European countries just let them pass through happy in the knowledge that the sooner they let them go they sooner it won't be their problem.
    So if the get here why don't those countries cover the cost to the UK?
    You're on the wrong board.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    And why don't the ships take them back to their point of embarkation?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    And why don't the ships take them back to their point of embarkation?
    Just getting out the popcorn. This could be quite amusing.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post


    Of course, being "illegal" immigrants it must be dead easy to get on the dole. What with the absence of a NI Number.
    Benefits helpline: Hello.
    Illegal: I'd like to claim £29,900 a year, please?
    Benefits helpline: Certainly sir, can I have your NI number, please?
    Illegal: I don't have one.
    Benefits helpline: Ah, what is your name then, please?
    Illegal: I'm not telling you.
    Benefits helpline: Are you an illegal immigrant?
    Illegal: Yes, but don't tell anyone.
    Benefits helpline: Fine. Go to your nearest jobcentre, ask for the manager and they will show you to the pot of gold room where you can help yourself to as much free cash as you like. I'll give you a special password.

    Refugees can get minimal handouts. There have been very rare cases where they've had quite lavish dwellings in which to live, but those have suited all as temporary measures. The reality is they get very, very little.

    Legally arriving immigrants cannot claim benefits for, according to the government's own site, "a qualifying period". Who knows what that is. One thing is certain, the government decides what that is. Those who arrive legally, who are not refugees, either have the money to stay here or have work (or a very solid promise of it at least).

    It always amuses me when people say we need to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country. They're here illegally, we don't know they're here. If we knew they were coming we'd be able to stop them. Britain has 20,000 miles of coastline, near enough. It's impossible to police it all.

    When it comes to illegal immigrants, most people haven't got a clue.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Benefits helpline: Hello.
    Illegal: I'd like to claim £29,900 a year, please?
    Benefits helpline: Certainly sir, can I have your NI number, please?
    Illegal: I don't have one.
    Benefits helpline: Ah, what is your name then, please?
    Illegal: I'm not telling you.
    Benefits helpline: Are you an illegal immigrant?
    Illegal: Yes, but don't tell anyone.
    Benefits helpline: Fine. Go to your nearest jobcentre, ask for the manager and they will show you to the pot of gold room where you can help yourself to as much free cash as you like. I'll give you a special password.

    Refugees can get minimal handouts. There have been very rare cases where they've had quite lavish dwellings in which to live, but those have suited all as temporary measures. The reality is they get very, very little.

    Legally arriving immigrants cannot claim benefits for, according to the government's own site, "a qualifying period". Who knows what that is. One thing is certain, the government decides what that is. Those who arrive legally, who are not refugees, either have the money to stay here or have work (or a very solid promise of it at least).

    It always amuses me when people say we need to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country. They're here illegally, we don't know they're here. If we knew they were coming we'd be able to stop them. Britain has 20,000 miles of coastline, near enough. It's impossible to police it all.

    When it comes to illegal immigrants, most people haven't got a clue.
    I understand all that but the keep coming because they hope that eventually they will be allowed to stay and then get the benefits, and this is born out for them by the stories that get back to them, whether they are right or wrong.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I hear this a lot. Is it because they can get our benefits or our jobs?
    There seems to be a bit of a pattern to Mr Snaggles posts.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    There seems to be a bit of a pattern to Mr Snaggles posts.
    Do you think that if you put an infinite number of monkeys in an infinitely sized room, and an infinite number of smart phones, that they would be able to recreate any of his postings? Or, do you think they would get the complete works of Shakespeare done first and then call it a day?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    There seems to be a bit of a pattern to Mr Snaggles posts.
    What pattern would that be?

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    There seems to be a bit of a pattern to Mr Snaggles posts.
    Are you going to say what this pattern is that you've noticed? Or are you avoiding the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Are you going to say what this pattern is that you've noticed? Or are you avoiding the question?
    I reckon that you're a bit Xenophobic.

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    Re: Illegal immigrants in the chanel

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52605310

    I really struggle to understand this. Why don't they take them back to France/Belgium and disembark them there? That is where the came from. Those countries have an obligation in international and European Law to either give them refugee status or return to where the came from. They should be processed at the point at which they enter the EU.

    And why is it they all want to come to UK? Whats wrong with Spain or France or Italy or Belgium or Greece?
    Do they all want to come to the UK? Obviously the ones heading here do, but not all refugees want to come here. Spain and France and Italy and Belgium and Greece get refugees as well.

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