Don't do as I do, do as I say.

[the other bob wilson]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...virus-lockdown

Seems to me that Neil Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood resigned for less than Cummings is said to have done - neither of them were in self isolation.

[lisvaneblue]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...virus-lockdown

Seems to me that Neil Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood resigned for less than Cummings is said to have done - neither of them were in self isolation.

I agree. I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay. Interesting that they have put a big barrier around that bench to stop anyone else using it.

[the other bob wilson]

I agree. I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay. Interesting that they have put a big barrier around that bench to stop anyone else using it.

Never mind that Sun story, there's a decent argument to say Gething should go anyway.

[xsnaggle]

Never mind that Sun story, there's a decent argument to say Gething should go anyway.

lol Cruel!!!!!

[Jordi Culé]

I agree. I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay. Interesting that they have put a big barrier around that bench to stop anyone else using it.

I believe Gething will argue that his stroll around a public area, accompanied by his family and buying a bag of chips could be deemed as essential? Similar to making a 80 mile trip to get some farmers market cheese can be deemed to be essential also.

I think it’s all down to a persons perception.

[lisvaneblue]

I believe Gething will argue that his stroll around a public area, accompanied by his family and buying a bag of chips could be deemed as essential? Similar to making a 80 mile trip to get some farmers market cheese can be deemed to be essential also.

I think it’s all down to a persons perception.

Its interesting that we all get caught up about people breaking the rules, and to what degree. And social distancing and sun seekers at Southend not keeping apart etc

But, the big decisions that impact on morbidity and mortality are made by government(s)...and they are sadly lacking.

Lack of PPE, lack of CC beds, lack of tracking and tracing, lack of tracking facilities, open airports, dumping Covid patients in care homes...I could go on.

We lack leaders, and many so called are showing us the they are not up to the job

[Jordi Culé]

Its interesting that we all get caught up about people breaking the rules, and to what degree. And social distancing and sun seekers at Southend not keeping apart etc

But, the big decisions that impact on morbidity and mortality are made by government(s)...and they are sadly lacking.

Lack of PPE, lack of CC beds, lack of tracking and tracing, lack of tracking facilities, open airports, dumping Covid patients in care homes...I could go on.

We lack leaders, and many so called are showing us the they are not up to the job

I, 100% agree with all that, whether they be Welsh or English leaders.

[MacAdder]

We have heard and seen quite a few instances on social media about people flouting the lockdown guidelines but has anyone been prosecuted?

In this particular instance, some form of community service is called for.
How about two weeks in a care home or maybe a month as a porter in hospital.

[the other bob wilson]

Its interesting that we all get caught up about people breaking the rules, and to what degree. And social distancing and sun seekers at Southend not keeping apart etc

But, the big decisions that impact on morbidity and mortality are made by government(s)...and they are sadly lacking.

Lack of PPE, lack of CC beds, lack of tracking and tracing, lack of tracking facilities, open airports, dumping Covid patients in care homes...I could go on.

We lack leaders, and many so called are showing us the they are not up to the job

I stick by what I said on here a few weeks ago - by and large, the "strong man" leaders (laughably, I've seen Boris Johnson being put in that group by some) of the world are having rings run around them by decisive woman leaders who give people the facts and don't talk to them as if they are idiots.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

I agree. I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay. Interesting that they have put a big barrier around that bench to stop anyone else using it.

Gething having a walk with his family and stopping to eat a bag of chips is hardly comparable.

[The Lone Gunman]

I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay.

This is hardly a revelation, but you Tories really are nauseating.

Attempting to somehow draw comparisons between a man and his family eating a bag of chips in a public place to another who apparently drove 260 miles during the height of the lockdown while displaying Covid-19 symptoms in order to dump his kids on his parents is not only pathetic - it's utterly ridiculous.

[Cleve van Leef]

This is hardly a revelation, but you Tories really are nauseating.

Attempting to somehow draw comparisons between a man and his family eating a bag of chips in a public place to another who apparently drove 260 miles during the height of the lockdown while displaying Covid-19 symptoms in order to dump his kids on his parents is not only pathetic - it's utterly ridiculous.

Correct.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

We are all in this together.

[CCFCC3PO]

We are all in this together.

Crazy, it's not as if people need any excuses to not follow the guidelines (which were already becoming a mockery).

[life on mars]

This is hardly a revelation, but you Tories really are nauseating.

Attempting to somehow draw comparisons between a man and his family eating a bag of chips in a public place to another who apparently drove 260 miles during the height of the lockdown while displaying Covid-19 symptoms in order to dump his kids on his parents is not only pathetic - it's utterly ridiculous.

thin he also insulted one of his colleagues ,pillar of society and all that ,i voted Liberal by the way in the last two elections ,equally nauseating its your clever assumption on how someone voted because for an opinion not even knowing them .

Please note oh clever one my first line of my post ( Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .)

[The Lone Gunman]

equally nauseating its your clever assumption on how someone voted because for an opinion not even knowing them. Please note oh clever one my first line of my post

I wasn't talking to you, hence the fact that I didn't quote you. I don't know if you're a Tory or not. All I know for sure is you're a gibbering idiot.

[life on mars]

I wasn't talking to you, hence the fact that I didn't quote you. I don't know if you're a Tory or not. All I know for sure is you're a gibbering idiot.

At least I'm not as sanctimonious as you ,with your morally superior stance .

Be safe

[life on mars]

Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .

Vaughan has got away with few he should fall and take his leader with him . ( spot the irony , leader?? )


I see Plaids MP Jonathan Edwards*has had his whip removed from his ?

[ninian opinian]

Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .

Vaughan has got away with few he should fall and take his leader with him . ( spot the irony , leader?? )


I see Plaids MP Jonathan Edwards*has had his whip removed from his ?

Is this a parody account

Read his wife’s article here about how ill they were. A piece of pure fiction.

https://spectator.us/getting-coronavirus-bring-clarity/

[the other bob wilson]

Is this a parody account

Read his wife’s article here about how ill they were. A piece of pure fiction.

https://spectator.us/getting-coronavirus-bring-clarity/

Poor woman, the trauma and, possibly, the delirium brought on from having the virus must mean that she can't remember the drive up to and stay in Durham as well as the drive home - seems she thought she was still in London all the time.

Seriously, if she didn't think her and her husband were doing anything wrong, why not mention it? Presumably, the article was written after Durham Police had contacted them?

[xsnaggle]

Poor woman, the trauma and, possibly, the delirium brought on from having the virus must mean that she can't remember the drive up to and stay in Durham as well as the drive home - seems she thought she was still in London all the time.

Seriously, if she didn't think her and her husband were doing anything wrong, why not mention it? Presumably, the article was written after Durham Police had contacted them?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the way the article read to me as that Mrs Cummings and son were already in Durham and he drove there to be with them. She says, 'would have to come home' like my Mrs used to say 'when are you coming home' when I worked away.
He drove to Durham to care for her I understood, which most men would tend to do for their wife.
Whether that was right or wrong is another matter.

[Hilts]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the way the article read to me as that Mrs Cummings and son were already in Durham and he drove there to be with them. She says, 'would have to come home' like my Mrs used to say 'when are you coming home' when I worked away.
He drove to Durham to care for her I understood, which most men would tend to do for their wife.
Whether that was right or wrong is another matter.

Yes your wrong. Read the 1st sentence.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the way the article read to me as that Mrs Cummings and son were already in Durham and he drove there to be with them. She says, 'would have to come home' like my Mrs used to say 'when are you coming home' when I worked away.
He drove to Durham to care for her I understood, which most men would tend to do for their wife.
Whether that was right or wrong is another matter.

So in this version, first Cummings' wife who had Covid drove their son, who did not to stay with Cummings' parents in Durham then as soon as Cummings discovered that he had the symptoms instead of isolating in London he drove to Durham so that they could all be together.

That sounds much better.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Is this a parody account

Read his wife’s article here about how ill they were. A piece of pure fiction.

https://spectator.us/getting-coronavirus-bring-clarity/

This article deserves a bump, just as Cummings and his wife seem to deserve each other when it comes to truth twisting, deceit and self-justification.

If you overlaid this with the version Cummings gave yesterday there would not be much that fitted in the intersection of the Venn diagram. Obviously the truth may not be in either of their tales.

[Hilts]

Just read the article. I was aware he had allegedly broken lockdown rules but also had coronavirus symptoms.!!!!! FFS if this is correct how is he still in a job ??

He will have to go and anyone in Government who has allowed him to remain in his job has serious questions to answer because it looks like they were trying to keep it quiet.