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    Re: Don't do as I do, do as I say.

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    When I read that he rushed home I assumed she meant Durham, the have a home there but i still cannot find a reference to London. It may be word blindness. It doesn't really matter, as I have said on several posts, what he did was not very clever even 'f they do manage to say it was in the rules. It was the way the likes of hitls questioned what I ahd said assuming I ahd read something I hadn't. lol
    The article said that they left quarantine to enter "lockdown London". If that's not referencing London, then what is it referencing?!

    May I ask how claimed to know that they have a home in Durham if you had only read the Spectator article? Btw, I have read several articles, seen the briefing today and read the defence from Tory MPs and Cummings himself and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that they have a home in Durham.

    Also, why did you base all your opinions on a biased article and ignore the one from the OP that the thread is based on (and continue to concentrate on that particular article) when the rest of us were telling you about the current information from other sources which put that article into more perspective.

    You were massively wrong with your presumptions about them not travelling together, posters tried to tell you that other sources showed that you were incorrect... yet you refused to budge and instead made it about people not understanding what you were saying because you were talking about the specific article written by one of the people involved who didn't want to incriminate themselves.

    It's becoming quite typical, really. (I'm having a slight "pop" at you with this one... I hope that's ok?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So in this version, first Cummings' wife who had Covid drove their son, who did not to stay with Cummings' parents in Durham then as soon as Cummings discovered that he had the symptoms instead of isolating in London he drove to Durham so that they could all be together.

    That sounds much better.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    The article said that they left quarantine to enter "lockdown London". If that's not referencing London, then what is it referencing?!

    May I ask how claimed to know that they have a home in Durham if you had only read the Spectator article? Btw, I have read several articles, seen the briefing today and read the defence from Tory MPs and Cummings himself and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that they have a home in Durham.

    Also, why did you base all your opinions on a biased article and ignore the one from the OP that the thread is based on (and continue to concentrate on that particular article) when the rest of us were telling you about the current information from other sources which put that article into more perspective.

    You were massively wrong with your presumptions about them not travelling together, posters tried to tell you that other sources showed that you were incorrect... yet you refused to budge and instead made it about people not understanding what you were saying because you were talking about the specific article written by one of the people involved who didn't want to incriminate themselves.

    It's becoming quite typical, really. (I'm having a slight "pop" at you with this one... I hope that's ok?)
    I can see nothing in that article that mentions London or 'lockdown london'. I've read it several times now. Can you point it out to me please?

    I mentioned Durham because other in this thread mentioned it, no other reason.

    No one who responded to my post has referred to another article that I may not have or should have read. Not one! They merely comment on my post and assume knowledge for God knows what reason and reply to things that aren't there because that's what suits their argument.
    I never made any presumption and I never mentioned anyone travelling anywhere whether alone or with anyone else. If I did please show me where?

    Yes I was talking about one particular article, you got that bit right, so why has everyone insisted on berating me for things that are not in it and to which I never referred?

    Personally I don't give a toss what he may or may not have done, it doesn't and won't affect my life, but I never defended him anywhere. Again if I have please show me. I actually said something to the effect of "whatever the circumstances what he did was probably not very clever, but again everyone, you included choose to disregard that because it doesn't suit your argument.

    I never made any claim or assertion so how can I have been "Massively wrong"? By the way, is massively wrong somehow worse than wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I can see nothing in that article that mentions London or 'lockdown london'. I've read it several times now. Can you point it out to me please?

    I mentioned Durham because other in this thread mentioned it, no other reason.

    No one who responded to my post has referred to another article that I may not have or should have read. Not one! They merely comment on my post and assume knowledge for God knows what reason and reply to things that aren't there because that's what suits their argument.
    I never made any presumption and I never mentioned anyone travelling anywhere whether alone or with anyone else. If I did please show me where?

    Yes I was talking about one particular article, you got that bit right, so why has everyone insisted on berating me for things that are not in it and to which I never referred?

    Personally I don't give a toss what he may or may not have done, it doesn't and won't affect my life, but I never defended him anywhere. Again if I have please show me. I actually said something to the effect of "whatever the circumstances what he did was probably not very clever, but again everyone, you included choose to disregard that because it doesn't suit your argument.

    I never made any claim or assertion so how can I have been "Massively wrong"? By the way, is massively wrong somehow worse than wrong?
    Perhaps it was this bit.

    After the uncertainty of the bug itself, we emerged from quarantine into the almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown. Everything and its opposite seems true. People are frightened and they’re calm; it’s spring and it’s not. Standing in line’s a pain in the ass and the most fun you’ll have all day.

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    Re: Don't do as I do, do as I say.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Perhaps it was this bit.

    After the uncertainty of the bug itself, we emerged from quarantine into the almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown. Everything and its opposite seems true. People are frightened and they’re calm; it’s spring and it’s not. Standing in line’s a pain in the ass and the most fun you’ll have all day.
    Fair enough, I never saw that bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Fair enough, I never saw that bit.
    Don't want to labour the point then but why did you say this?

    So why don't you hilts and the others that said I was wrong in my understanding of the article actually go and read it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I never said I was right, I only ever said in that article there was no mention of where she was or that they had both traveled.
    I also said that whatever the truth it was not the best thing he could have done. It wasn't.
    At no time have I said he didn't travel or that she didn't but people misread what I wrote and assumed that was what I was saying. Personally I don't give a toss one way or the other, the biggest problem was today that this completely dominated questions on the government briefing to the detrement of other things more relevant to you and I that may have been asked.
    As someone who likes to write for the public domain I would think that you could be able to read what is actually written without building in a meaning that isn't there. Perhaps it's you that is biased, in the reading, rather than me in writing?
    you keep on saying that you don't give a toss, but the amount of time you've spent arguing in this thread plainly shows that you do.

    Why do so many people on here have such a problem with admitting when they've got something wrong?

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    TOBW, what did I get wrong? Tell me? What assertion did I make that was wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    TOBW, what did I get wrong? Tell me? What assertion did I make that was wrong?
    Well, there's the post above for a start. You suggested his wife and son were already in Durham, it's pretty obvious now they weren't - doesn't that mean you were wrong?

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