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Just been on Twitter, there's so much stuff about Stephen Kinnock there - if I was more of a cynic, I would say some people are trying to divert attention away from someone.Originally Posted by delmbox
For the record, what Kinnock did was against the rules and, as others have resigned for similar wrongdoings, I think he should be penalised by his party or he should stand down as an MP, but, in my opinion. what Cummings did is in a different league from him.
That's not her leaping to his defence at all. She's merely reporting what the slimy Tories are saying in their attempt to wriggle out of it.
I just don't get the castigation of journalists like her for doing their job. It's pathetic.
She's directly replying to another journalist's scoop with an unnamed, unreferenced source which serves the purpose of questioning the validity of the story on behalf of the subject. That's not normal journalistic behaviour, and she's right to be criticized for it.
She's a senior political journalist. It's her job to build relationships with people government and in opposition, and to report what they are doing, saying and thinking.
The criticism of Kuenessberg makes me laugh. Every Labour supporter I know thinks she's heavily biased in favour of the Tories, while everyone I know who opposes Labour thinks she's a screaming leftie. It's ridiculous. It seems that opinions of her journalism are determined solely by which side of political spectrum you're on rather than what she actually writes or reports.
Does that shit from both sides mean she actually might be doing it right?
She gets a huge amount of criticism, not all of it fair I agree, and some of it is clearly derived from misogyny. But a lot of it is also fair, and she deserves to be called out for stuff like this.
The source she mentions was undoubtedly someone in Government, (let's be honest, probably Cummings himself) so instead if issuing a comment on the story their first act was to feed her a line which she then parrotted in direct reply to the initial story. She's the BBC's political editor, her job is not to directly rebut another journalist's story with lines from unnamed sources within the Government. It's not proper, decent or remotely common journalistic practice, especially from someone in her position.
Her issuing the rebuttal is the work of PR people and spin doctors, and she's got previous - remember when she spread that Matt Hancock's adviser had been punched outside Leeds Hospital during the election, thanks again to her "unnamed sources", and had to swiftly retract when it became obvious that there was video footage of the incident which showed that absolutely nothing of the sort happened? She's either wilfully compliant in being used to propagate spin for the Tories or she's hopelessly naive. Neither is a good look.
She is a raving tory , I think she head of the tory students society at university or something
I would like to see the back of drakeford , hes as wet as a weekend in Blackpool
Robert Jenrick did similar didnt he? Hes still a minister for a Government delivering these policies.
Should he have resigned as a Minister. I think so. As an MP MP probably not.
Cummings had covid symptoms.
This is a different level.
So there are different levels of breaking the rules? If you have symptoms or not you can have the virus.
Kinnock should have resigned, Cummings too, and Vaughan Gethin
And by the way, my neighbour had visitors for most of yesterday afternoon, and the couple at the back had their usual visit from their daughter and grandchild. What are we going to do about them.
Seriously I don't blame them. I think we are at wits end with these restrictions
And Drakeford.
He comes over as useless to be fairlol Cruel!!!!!
The BBC account of Cummings' actions, as quoted, just confuses matters. If I've understood this right, Cummings and Mrs C drive 260 miles London to Durham, stayed in a non relatives house on the off chance that they might be needed to free up relatives to look after children but his sister did the shopping and dropped it off so Mr and Mrs C weren't required to do anything so they drove back to London without having seen relatives or done the shopping but did stay up in Durham and Gove says that was "essential" and therefore OK. I think.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52782913
I thought the whole idea behind “Stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives’ was that it was 100% clear and not subject to interpretation.
This gives even more people reasons to ignore the lockdown rules. People who haven't seen their parents for months could now justifiably think "f**kit then, if the PM's advisor is going to travel 2hrs WITH coronavirus and there's so consequence for him, I'll do the same"
If he doesn't get fired it completely undermines any demands for us to stay at home
And what about the allotment?
I think the move to open Garden Centres was only made because of the allotment, and then back-dated like eating chips on park benches.
'from London to Durham with his sick wife'
It doesn't say that. The article is written in the first person and makes no reference to her travelling anywhere
I think we are talking about different articles.
spokesperson for Durham Constabulary said: "On Tuesday, March 31, our officers were made aware of reports that an individual had travelled from London to Durham and was present at an address in the city."
5 April - Cummings is spotted outside his parents’ property by a neighbour.
He was there for nearly a week..
It's actually based on the fact she is a well known tory sympathiser
It's an open secret
yep it certainty is , she clever though , plays pretense and chucks out the odd criticism of the Tories . I notice at the press briefings they go to her first and , old Boris always call her Laura in a friendly way smug way ,think she secretly has the hots for him
This has become a very odd story now.
I think the gov could have just admitted he was wrong and carried on business as usual but they have instead opted to bullshit their way through it and have now rallied the troops to double down on the bullshit.
What Cummings did was unambiguously wrong and yet all the heavy hitters in the cabinet are coming out to bat for him and in turn endorsing an action that was clearly against the rules. It feels so unnecessary.
Gets me thinking about his value and whether there is more to this than meets the eye.
From the spectator article that Mrs Cummings wrote (the one you keep referring to): "My husband did rush home to look after me".
He rushed home to where?!They don't live in Durham and she makes no reference to it in the article, only London. It's complete fabrication of the facts.
(I'm not "having a go" by the way
When I read that he rushed home I assumed she meant Durham, the have a home there but i still cannot find a reference to London. It may be word blindness. It doesn't really matter, as I have said on several posts, what he did was not very clever even 'f they do manage to say it was in the rules. It was the way the likes of hitls questioned what I ahd said assuming I ahd read something I hadn't. lolFrom the spectator article that Mrs Cummings wrote (the one you keep referring to): "My husband did rush home to look after me".
He rushed home to where?!They don't live in Durham and she makes no reference to it in the article, only London. It's complete fabrication of the facts.
(I'm not "having a go" by the way
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