Cummings is a ****ing unelected scumbag. One rule for him, another for us.... seems like borderline dictatorship
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Cummings is a ****ing unelected scumbag. One rule for him, another for us.... seems like borderline dictatorship
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Fair play to Cummings.
BBC News reporting that "Mr Cummings is understood to have left London with his wife, who'd developed symptoms, and their young son after lockdown rules were put in place on 23 March". Assuming this is part of the rolling coverage which makes up much of the BBC News Channels output, wouldn't the Government have said something by now if it was not true his wife and son were with him?
If they say this it is almost certainly true. I never disputed it, I only said that the article you posted a link to didn't say it. I hadn't read anything else nor, until 20 minutes ago, had I accessed any news feeds.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
You seemed almost eager to put a different, more sympathetic to Cummings' iinterpretation on things to what was being widely accepted. I was prepared to admit I was wrong. Now we have had a briefing in which a Government Minister did nothing whatsoever to suggest that Cummings' wife and child had not travelled with him to Durham - you were wrong, how about admitting it?
In fairness to xsnaggle, it seems Cummings can't even manage to agree on a version of the events with his own wife, so how is anyone else supposed to know the real story?
I never said I was right, I only ever said in that article there was no mention of where she was or that they had both traveled.
I also said that whatever the truth it was not the best thing he could have done. It wasn't.
At no time have I said he didn't travel or that she didn't but people misread what I wrote and assumed that was what I was saying. Personally I don't give a toss one way or the other, the biggest problem was today that this completely dominated questions on the government briefing to the detrement of other things more relevant to you and I that may have been asked.
As someone who likes to write for the public domain I would think that you could be able to read what is actually written without building in a meaning that isn't there. Perhaps it's you that is biased, in the reading, rather than me in writing?
You wrote this.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the way the article read to me as that Mrs Cummings and son were already in Durham and he drove there to be with them. She says, 'would have to come home' like my Mrs used to say 'when are you coming home' when I worked away.
He drove to Durham to care for her I understood, which most men would tend to do for their wife. Whether that was right or wrong is another matter.
Who wouldn't drive 264 miles to Durham to be with his wife looks remarkably like a different, more sympathetic, interpretation on things to what was being widely accepted to me. Still we all live and learn.
I have to say though that your argument that this distracted from the core of today's government briefing did make me chuckle. Which bit of the Daily Coronavirus briefing that Grant Schapps took up prime time television by talking about the government's transport policy, a new station in Fleetwood or the widening of the A66 did you think got most overlooked?
They are wriggling that's for sure. Cummings must be a VIP in government.
Is it any wonder people ignore the rules?
DC is coming out all guns blazing touting anyone would do the same for their family.
It's embarrassingly bad for the government but hey, we've all seen how thick their skin is this last couple of years. They don't seem to give a flying one.
How do you know they weren't that ill?(Is this a parody account
Read his wife’s article here about how ill they were. A piece of pure fiction.
https://spectator.us/getting-coronavirus-bring-clarity/
I suppose it is possible that she was so ill he rushed home.( shouldnt he have been at home isolating for 14 days anyway.). He then got home put his sick wife in a car after arranging travel and child care and drove 260 miles. All done within 24 hours when he eventually collapses.
Remember, if you get the virus stay at home - unless you care about your family or have common sense.
Indeed. Echoes of Rees-Mogg and Grenfell.
Looks like others agree with you:
BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg is facing criticism after appearing to quickly jump to the defence of the Prime Minister’s top adviser following reports he flouted lockdown rules
Think he may well have to clarify the time line a bit more (ok a lot more) but it is perfectly feasible to have made the arrangements and driven to Durham from London in 24 hours.
Whether he should have done is a matter for debate.
Allegedly, Cummings' visit to Durham coincided with his mother's birthday and a neighbour happened to spot him in the garden with his kid running around and music blasting out behind him.
Curiouser and curiouser.....
Look. If you can't stop off in Watford Gap Services, buy an ABBA Gold CD then blast it out around the family estate what's the point of being Prime Minister?..........sorry I meant Senior Political Advisor to the Prime Minister?
He must have recovered quickly as his wife said he collapsed 24 hours after arriving home to care for her.
The article said that they left quarantine to enter "lockdown London". If that's not referencing London, then what is it referencing?!When I read that he rushed home I assumed she meant Durham, the have a home there but i still cannot find a reference to London. It may be word blindness. It doesn't really matter, as I have said on several posts, what he did was not very clever even 'f they do manage to say it was in the rules. It was the way the likes of hitls questioned what I ahd said assuming I ahd read something I hadn't. lol
May I ask how claimed to know that they have a home in Durham if you had only read the Spectator article? Btw, I have read several articles, seen the briefing today and read the defence from Tory MPs and Cummings himself and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that they have a home in Durham.
Also, why did you base all your opinions on a biased article and ignore the one from the OP that the thread is based on (and continue to concentrate on that particular article) when the rest of us were telling you about the current information from other sources which put that article into more perspective.
You were massively wrong with your presumptions about them not travelling together, posters tried to tell you that other sources showed that you were incorrect... yet you refused to budge and instead made it about people not understanding what you were saying because you were talking about the specific article written by one of the people involved who didn't want to incriminate themselves.
It's becoming quite typical, really. (I'm having a slight "pop" at you with this one... I hope that's ok?)
I can see nothing in that article that mentions London or 'lockdown london'. I've read it several times now. Can you point it out to me please?
I mentioned Durham because other in this thread mentioned it, no other reason.
No one who responded to my post has referred to another article that I may not have or should have read. Not one! They merely comment on my post and assume knowledge for God knows what reason and reply to things that aren't there because that's what suits their argument.
I never made any presumption and I never mentioned anyone travelling anywhere whether alone or with anyone else. If I did please show me where?
Yes I was talking about one particular article, you got that bit right, so why has everyone insisted on berating me for things that are not in it and to which I never referred?
Personally I don't give a toss what he may or may not have done, it doesn't and won't affect my life, but I never defended him anywhere. Again if I have please show me. I actually said something to the effect of "whatever the circumstances what he did was probably not very clever, but again everyone, you included choose to disregard that because it doesn't suit your argument.
I never made any claim or assertion so how can I have been "Massively wrong"? By the way, is massively wrong somehow worse than wrong?
Perhaps it was this bit.
After the uncertainty of the bug itself, we emerged from quarantine into the almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown. Everything and its opposite seems true. People are frightened and they’re calm; it’s spring and it’s not. Standing in line’s a pain in the ass and the most fun you’ll have all day.
Fair enough, I never saw that bit.
Don't want to labour the point then but why did you say this?
So why don't you hilts and the others that said I was wrong in my understanding of the article actually go and read it?
you keep on saying that you don't give a toss, but the amount of time you've spent arguing in this thread plainly shows that you do.
Why do so many people on here have such a problem with admitting when they've got something wrong?
TOBW, what did I get wrong? Tell me? What assertion did I make that was wrong?
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