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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    Word perfect.

    He should have resigned. When he didnt, he should have been sacked. And, ideally, punched. There will be tens, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, who will allow themselves a little bit more freedom as a result of this. If he can visit family, why shouldnt we? Because people will die, of course. But that is lost on government.

    Boris johnson is a dangerous moron and a coward. He thinks he is some sort of churchill figure but he's actually a sort of delinquent vapid chuckle brother, bouncing between incompetent ****-ups. Govts job for the last few months has been to listen to scientists; understand what they are saying, distill that into clear unambiguous messages; and lead by example. Hes been an absolute ****ing shambles on all fronts. Criminal incompetence.
    Whatever credibility and good faith the Government has with a large percentage of the population is evaporating.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    He should have resigned. When he didnt, he should have been sacked.
    Just read a great line on Facebook. A friend suggested that expecting Boris Johnson to sack Dominic Cummings is the equivalent of expecting Emu to sack Rod Hull.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Just read a great line on Facebook. A friend suggested that expecting Boris Johnson to sack Dominic Cummings is the equivalent of expecting Emu to sack Rod Hull.
    Are you suggesting that Cummings has his hand up Johnson's arse?

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Whatever credibility and good faith the Government has with a large percentage of the population is evaporating.
    Large percentage of the population?
    45% voted the Kents in so 55 percent either hated them or couldn't give a fack

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    Large percentage of the population?
    45% voted the Kents in so 55 percent either hated them or couldn't give a fack
    exactly insider thats why i,m in favour of proportional representation . it's is the way forward in politics

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Cummings is a shithouse , he has been caught out

    He should go and so should schapps and the other idiot tories squirmingly sticking up for him

    It's a disgrace

    When the dust settles on this virus I hope the Tories are given a savage beating , bunch of chancers

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    exactly insider thats why i,m in favour of proportional representation . it's is the way forward in politics
    The population were given a vote on that , most people couldn't even be bothered to turn up and it was rejected

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    i know sludge but somethings got to change . you can't have governments winning on only 33 per cent of the population surely ?

    the last tory government won on that percentage that,s not right

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Are you suggesting that Cummings has his hand up Johnson's arse?
    Personally, I think Cummings has missed a trick. All he needed to do was say he was visiting his favourite butcher to buy some essential meat and he’d have been fine.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Personally, I think Cummings has missed a trick. All he needed to do was say he was visiting his favourite butcher to buy some essential meat and he’d have been fine.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Personally, I think Cummings has missed a trick. All he needed to do was say he was visiting his favourite butcher to buy some essential meat and he’d have been fine.
    Thanks for thinking about me TLG. Funny how things work out.

    Now that Garden centres are open I'll be off to Chepstow Garden Centre for a click and collect as they have the climber I want in stock. As it happens the butcher I use in Abergavenny has a branch on the premises, so a bit of shopping there is on the cards. If the weather holds its then over the bridge to W-S-M for sun and sand, but must make sure the meat stays cold so I'll probably use the camper van, with the option of staying over for a night.

    Thing is my freezer is low on fish and I normally buy that in bulk at the quay at Brixham, but with the bank holiday he's closed until Wednesday. Im sure I'll work something out.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Thanks for thinking about me TLG. Funny how things work out.

    Now that Garden centres are open I'll be off to Chepstow Garden Centre for a click and collect as they have the climber I want in stock. As it happens the butcher I use in Abergavenny has a branch on the premises, so a bit of shopping there is on the cards. If the weather holds its then over the bridge to W-S-M for sun and sand, but must make sure the meat stays cold so I'll probably use the camper van, with the option of staying over for a night.

    Thing is my freezer is low on fish and I normally buy that in bulk at the quay at Brixham, but with the bank holiday he's closed until Wednesday. Im sure I'll work something out.
    Well let's hope you don't spread Coronavirus on any of your unnecessary trips then eh. Still, as long as you have a nice time, that's the most important thing

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Thanks for thinking about me TLG. Funny how things work out.

    Now that Garden centres are open I'll be off to Chepstow Garden Centre for a click and collect as they have the climber I want in stock. As it happens the butcher I use in Abergavenny has a branch on the premises, so a bit of shopping there is on the cards. If the weather holds its then over the bridge to W-S-M for sun and sand, but must make sure the meat stays cold so I'll probably use the camper van, with the option of staying over for a night.
    Just make sure you don't sit on a bench at any stage or you'll have to sack yourself, you smug Tory twat.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Just make sure you don't sit on a bench at any stage or you'll have to sack yourself, you smug Tory twat.
    I’m not smug, and for the record if we had an election tomorrow Keir Starmer would get my vote

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    I’m not smug, and for the record if we had an election tomorrow Keir Starmer would get my vote
    Your post this morning was extremely smug, but given the attitude of the Tory cabinet and their minions in recent days it's not surprising that the attitude of the voters who elected them is following a similar course.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    I’m not smug, and for the record if we had an election tomorrow Keir Starmer would get my vote
    Have some conviction.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Personally, I think Cummings has missed a trick. All he needed to do was say he was visiting his favourite butcher to buy some essential meat and he’d have been fine.
    I went out and bought some meat and two veg today and stuffed it down my trousers

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I went out and bought some meat and two veg today and stuffed it down my trousers
    No wonder those runners were trying to get away!

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    No wonder those runners were trying to get away!
    They were sex people

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Keir Starmer is a credible leader. The shadow cabinet is superior to the arrogant, incompetent and in Patel’s case thick front bench.
    I agree. Most credible opposition in 10 years. Give Starmer and co a chance and they will hold the Tories properly to account. Which has to be good for our democracy.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    I agree. Most credible opposition in 10 years. Give Starmer and co a chance and they will hold the Tories properly to account. Which has to be good for our democracy.
    He appears to have something about him, maybe can break the cycle of 40 odd years of Tories hey?

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    I agree. Most credible opposition in 10 years. Give Starmer and co a chance and they will hold the Tories properly to account. Which has to be good for our democracy.
    Starmer is a barrister who has fought numerous legal cases and he seems to be a man of principle

    Unlike blair who after a decent start turned out to be a war mongering lunatic

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Starmer is a barrister who has fought numerous legal cases and he seems to be a man of principle

    Unlike blair who after a decent start turned out to be a war mongering lunatic
    I'm by and large anti-war, anti-violence, sort things out by peaceful and diplomatic means.

    Thatcher got huge support for the Falklands. It's reckoned that it saved her premiership. She also was PM when we went to war in Iraq the first time. I can't remember her being vilified at the time.

    Blair did the same as Thatcher and got vilified. I remember the time that Saddam Hussein's statue was toppled. That symbolism was well received in the UK and, from memory, was well celebrated.

    It strikes me that it's a bit odd that Thatcher never really suffered the public outrage years later for her wars, yet Blair did. Perhaps I'm missing something. BTW I'm not saying that I agree with Blair's actions but it's arguable that the whole middle eastern spiral started long before he came along.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I'm by and large anti-war, anti-violence, sort things out by peaceful and diplomatic means.

    Thatcher got huge support for the Falklands. It's reckoned that it saved her premiership. She also was PM when we went to war in Iraq the first time. I can't remember her being vilified at the time.

    Blair did the same as Thatcher and got vilified. I remember the time that Saddam Hussein's statue was toppled. That symbolism was well received in the UK and, from memory, was well celebrated.

    It strikes me that it's a bit odd that Thatcher never really suffered the public outrage years later for her wars, yet Blair did. Perhaps I'm missing something. BTW I'm not saying that I agree with Blair's actions but it's arguable that the whole middle eastern spiral started long before he came along.
    Being PM though he had the opportunity to step back away from the shitstorm.

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    Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Being PM though he had the opportunity to step back away from the shitstorm.
    Blair adopted US foreign policy, Thatcher didn't, by the way, the UK Government had tried to get rid of Las Malvinas on a couple of occasions before the Argentine Invasion. What we are seeing now in the Middle East is a direct result of UK and American Foreign policy. We completely de stabilised an already unstable region by invading, occupying and attempting to put in place our own and more convenient type of democracy and allowed factions who hated each over to rise up and subsequently created a civil war where people are still being murdered to this day. Sadly, it's not news anymore, people are bored of it. The Tories also supported the invasion and the Lib Dems supported 'Our Troops' once the invasion had started.

    These criminal actions by Blair and Bush have completely destabilised the whole world, born out of the invasion was ISIS and their merry followers and a rise in islamophobia and the fascist right. The UK's involvement led to huge amounts of refugees, death and suffering, nobody was spared which probably couldn't be said about that Evil bastard Saddam Hussein who we loved dealing with during the mid to late eighties. It has affected politics in the UK as well, a rise in the neo right, racism and xenophobia, leading to post colonial fallout in the most deprived areas that labour should have helped and supported, which always results in reactionary behaviour like voting to leave the EU because of foreigners and electing Boris-Same in the states with Trump.

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