Justice for George Floyd petition

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

No I clearly said we have issues, but they are not the same as what we see in America. If you want to talk about the issues then we can, but instead you're trying to import American issues (like black people being killed by police and custody deaths) when they do not apply here. Your sole argument is the cardiff 3, the fact you have to go back 3 decades says it all really.

If you're not going to actually address what I'm saying and instead put words in my mouth I won't bother

The death of this black guy has stoked the fires of something that has been bubbling for years and I am glad people of all colour are protesting about racism

The fact that 3 black men were framed for a murder by the police , were convicted by a white jury , the fact that south wales police has very few black officers , the fact that cardiff city football club is located in a multi racial city yet very few people of colour support our club and very few people of colour have prominent positions in society means that this is a protest about the wider issue of race and I fully support those protesting in cardiff and other cities today .

[Llandaff Blue]

The death of this black guy has stoked the fires of something that has been bubbling for years and I am glad people of all colour are protesting about racism

The fact that 3 black men were framed for a murder by the police , were convicted by a white jury , the fact that south wales police has very few black officers , the fact that cardiff city football club is located in a multi racial city yet very few people of colour support our club and very few people of colour have prominent positions in society means that this is a protest about the wider issue of race and I fully support those protesting in cardiff and other cities today .

ok

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Shreds. Good podcast. Horrific behaviour from corrupt police. Thankfully we’ve made great strides in the last 10/20 years.

Are you white ?

How would you know if police in this country have made as you say , great strides in the last twenty years regarding the treatment of black people ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Yep :

On 22 November 1990 three of the five accused were found guilty of White's murder. Tony Paris, Yusef Abdullahi and Stephen Miller – who became known as the "Cardiff*Three" – were each sentenced to life imprisonment. Cousins Ronnie and John Actie were acquitted of the murder; both had spent two years in custody.

Nice fellas the Actie's

What do you know about the two men you mention ?

They were known to the police

But does that mean that because , as you are suggesting , they were not pleasant people , they should be behind bars whilst the killer walked free ?

This website is going to the gutter

[J R Hartley]

Are you white ?

How would you know if police in this country have made as you say , great strides in the last twenty years regarding the treatment of black people ?

By the facts McFly. The facts.

Numbers of black people dying in police custody well down in the last 10 years compared to previous 10/20/30 years.

By your logic, your white too so you can’t have an opinion either.

[J R Hartley]

What do you know about the two men you mention ?

They were known to the police

But does that mean that because , as you are suggesting , they were not pleasant people , they should be behind bars whilst the killer walked free ?

This website is going to the gutter

Are you ok Marty?

He says they were nice fellas?!?!?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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You are white , as are the people bumping their guns telling others what they can and cannot protest about

I doubt you would find much agreement with your views in the butetown community centre because they would actually know , from experience

You take care now

[Llandaff Blue]

You are white , as are the people bumping their guns telling others what they can and cannot protest about

I doubt you would find much agreement with your views in the butetown community centre because they would actually know , from experience

You take care now

Couldn't give a flying **** about what butetown think mate. You said black people dying in custody is an issue here, it isn't. You said police killing black people here is an issue, it isn't.

You are also white, stop speaking for black people and assuming you'd know what they'd disagree with

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Couldn't give a flying **** about what butetown think mate. You said black people dying in custody is an issue here, it isn't. You said police killing black people here is an issue, it isn't.

You are also white, stop speaking for black people and assuming you'd know what they'd disagree with

I agree its not an issue if the UK as people aren't as likely to die in police custody here as they are in the US but if you are black you are more at risk of dying in police custody than if you are white.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-by-ethnicity/

[Llandaff Blue]

I agree its not an issue if the UK as people aren't as likely to die in police custody here as they are in the US but if you are black you are more at risk of dying in police custody than if you are white.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-by-ethnicity/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52890363

[Harry Paget Flashman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52890363

Who to believe???

[the other bob wilson]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52890363

Odd that after all of your criticism of Sludge that you post something which states that the number of blacks who die in police custody in England and Wales is "disproportionately high" - presumably, he's won you around to his way of thinking.

[J R Hartley]

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[J R Hartley]

You are white , as are the people bumping their guns telling others what they can and cannot protest about

I doubt you would find much agreement with your views in the butetown community centre because they would actually know , from experience

You take care now

What colour are you Sludge?

Probably red at the moment but when the hysteria wears off I believe you are white?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

By the facts McFly. The facts.

Numbers of black people dying in police custody well down in the last 10 years compared to previous 10/20/30 years.

By your logic, your white too so you can’t have an opinion either.

I can , it's just my opinion agrees with those of the oppressed who know what it like to suffer racism and discrimination because of the colour of their skin

Unless you are going to tell me you are of afro Caribbean origin ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Are you ok Marty?

He says they were nice fellas?!?!?

He was being sarcastic , the cousins were known to the police

But sod that , let's lock them up for a murder they didnt commit

He knew exactly what he was saying

[Wales-Bales]

What was this guy actually doing? Is he trying to pair his phone with their communication system?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Couldn't give a flying **** about what butetown think mate. You said black people dying in custody is an issue here, it isn't. You said police killing black people here is an issue, it isn't.

You are also white, stop speaking for black people and assuming you'd know what they'd disagree with

Go down there and tell em your views

It's easy to bump your gums on here as a white person telling everyone they are wrong to protest

Good luck

[Llandaff Blue]

Go down there and tell em your views

It's easy to bump your gums on here as a white person telling everyone they are wrong to protest

Good luck

Tell them what? No-one is making the arguments you are. Do you hate yourself because you're white or what? You are obsessed with trying to use it as an insult.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What colour are you Sludge?

Probably red at the moment but when the hysteria wears off I believe you are white?

I am white as are most of the lynch mob on here telling people of colour they shouldn't be outraged by recent events in america and that it's got nothing to do with them

Its irony on a base level

[J R Hartley]

Ring ring

Ring ring

Hello? Is that Sludge?

Yes

Please return to the 21st century.

[J R Hartley]

I can , it's just my opinion agrees with those of the oppressed who know what it like to suffer racism and discrimination because of the colour of their skin

Unless you are going to tell me you are of afro Caribbean origin ?

Chinese

[J R Hartley]

Tell them what? No-one is making the arguments you are. Do you hate yourself because you're white or what? You are obsessed with trying to use it as an insult.

He’s stuck in the 90s

You only have to listen to the way he talks about the soul crew and what drugs are dealt in certain cities to realise the man is stuck in a time warp.

All his analogy’s are from the 80s and 90s

Swear he was frozen in 1992 and has just been defrosted

[Llandaff Blue]

He’s stuck in the 90s

You only have to listen to the way he talks about the soul crew and what drugs are dealt in certain cities to realise the man is stuck in a time warp.

All his analogy’s are from the 80s and 90s

Swear he was frozen in 1992 and has just been defrosted

i had him on ignore for a year but cause of how useless the ignore feature is i see all of his stupid posts.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Chinese

Have the chinese community in the uk suffered from racism and discrimination on a level the afro Caribbean community have ?

Yes or no ?