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    Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Can I suggest that you Google Cardiff feeder and see what comes up. I just did and Cardiff parks came up first.....They call it the Feeder Canal...Yes I know people call it 'the feeder' but it is a canal.

    Canals don't have to have boats on them. It was built by Bute to move water from the Taff to the docks to manage the water levels in the basins. It used to move about 50million gallons a day.
    I don’t doubt your dictionary definition, you are undoubtedly correct. However, I maintain that what the Council is now calling a canal under Churchill Way has always been known to all ans sundry as the feeder including, up until this proposed scheme, the Council. When I started work for the Council, more years ago than i care to remember, what remained of the Glamorgan Canal within the boundaries of Cardiff was owned by the Council. Expenditure and income for it was accounted for it separately as a “Committee” like Housing, Highways, Education etc, were. It was always referred to as the “Canal” to differentiate it from the feeder. It may seem strange to account separately for a defunct canal that was mostly filled in but there was a significant land holding. In a later existence in the Council I worked in the Parks HQ in Heath Park where the watercourse that comes off the Taff at Blackweir was always called the feeder. There is no doubt that the word canal is more alluring than “Docks Feeder” so it is understandable why the Council would now want to call it something that it wasn’t called before.

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    Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Mort View Post
    I don’t doubt your dictionary definition, you are undoubtedly correct. However, I maintain that what the Council is now calling a canal under Churchill Way has always been known to all ans sundry as the feeder including, up until this proposed scheme, the Council. When I started work for the Council, more years ago than i care to remember, what remained of the Glamorgan Canal within the boundaries of Cardiff was owned by the Council. Expenditure and income for it was accounted for it separately as a “Committee” like Housing, Highways, Education etc, were. It was always referred to as the “Canal” to differentiate it from the feeder. It may seem strange to account separately for a defunct canal that was mostly filled in but there was a significant land holding. In a later existence in the Council I worked in the Parks HQ in Heath Park where the watercourse that comes off the Taff at Blackweir was always called the feeder. There is no doubt that the word canal is more alluring than “Docks Feeder” so it is understandable why the Council would now want to call it something that it wasn’t called before.
    Yes I know people call it the feeder. This only started because Xsnaggle said it wasn't a canal. The council can call it whatever it likes but on all the maps etc it's listed as the 'feeder canal'. So it's not a new term made up to make the Churchill Way proposal sound more attractive.
    Similarly many people call the 'Glamorganshire' canal the Glamorgan canal, but it is what it is.

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    Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Yes I know people call it the feeder. This only started because Xsnaggle said it wasn't a canal. The council can call it whatever it likes but on all the maps etc it's listed as the 'feeder canal'. So it's not a new term made up to make the Churchill Way proposal sound more attractive.
    Similarly many people call the 'Glamorganshire' canal the Glamorgan canal, but it is what it is.
    A quick dip into my collection of maps shows Bacon’s 1910 large scale map of Cardiff (G.W. Bacon & Co Ltd. was a reputable large scale map producer from the 1890s to the 1950s) and the 1922 Ordnance Survey clearly showing “Docks Feeder” so not all maps. Perhaps we will have to agree to differ

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    Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Mort View Post
    A quick dip into my collection of maps shows Bacon’s 1910 large scale map of Cardiff (G.W. Bacon & Co Ltd. was a reputable large scale map producer from the 1890s to the 1950s) and the 1922 Ordnance Survey clearly showing “Docks Feeder” so not all maps. Perhaps we will have to agree to differ
    I guess so. Out of interest, as you used to work for the parks Dept, I looked at their website and they correctly call it the Docks Feeder Canal. However their photo of a tree lined section is simply labelled 'the feeder'

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    Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Mort View Post
    I don’t doubt your dictionary definition, you are undoubtedly correct. However, I maintain that what the Council is now calling a canal under Churchill Way has always been known to all ans sundry as the feeder including, up until this proposed scheme, the Council. When I started work for the Council, more years ago than i care to remember, what remained of the Glamorgan Canal within the boundaries of Cardiff was owned by the Council. Expenditure and income for it was accounted for it separately as a “Committee” like Housing, Highways, Education etc, were. It was always referred to as the “Canal” to differentiate it from the feeder. It may seem strange to account separately for a defunct canal that was mostly filled in but there was a significant land holding. In a later existence in the Council I worked in the Parks HQ in Heath Park where the watercourse that comes off the Taff at Blackweir was always called the feeder. There is no doubt that the word canal is more alluring than “Docks Feeder” so it is understandable why the Council would now want to call it something that it wasn’t called before.
    Call it the docks feeder canal !

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    Re: Cardiff's staggered work hours plan to cut city centre congestion

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebina View Post
    Call it the docks feeder canal !
    Well Ordinance Survey maps seem to label it "docks feeder canal", so that's good enough for me.

    *He said unironically wading into an online argument he had openly mocked people for having a few posts ago.

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