Tomlin's attitude

[tomcat]

No, just somebody who was told something factually correct by somebody in the know......

[Hilts]

I'm not disputing for a second that Tomlin was an important player last season. Without him, I'm certain the side would have finished mid-table as opposed to in the play-off positions. However, the notion that he won 30 points single-handedly is plainly daft.

Will he have a significant impact again this season or was last season as good as it gets from him? We shall see.

I agree with that.

Its probably as good as it gets. However if he can be 80 percent of last season then that will improve us massively.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

So, a massive exaggeration then.

If your calculations are correct, Tomlin 'single-handedly' won City 14 points last season as opposed to 30.

Interesting that Tomlin gets credited with 'single-handedly' winning points for the team whenever he scores a goal. Is the same true for the rest of the team?

In most of those games, Tomlin grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. Nobody else put their hand up. Take Leeds for example, we were dead and buried and two bits of magic got us one of the best feelings I've ever had at a game. Barnsley we were awful and he gets the brilliant pass for Ward and the winner. Luton, the game was terrible and he produces a bit of magic from nowhere. He sets up both goals at Wednesday, and we win 2-1. He was an absolute pleasure to watch last season and we haven't had too many players like that in recent seasons.

[splott parker]

In most of those games, Tomlin grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. Nobody else put their hand up. Take Leeds for example, we were dead and buried and two bits of magic got us one of the best feelings I've ever had at a game. Barnsley we were awful and he gets the brilliant pass for Ward and the winner. Luton, the game was terrible and he produces a bit of magic from nowhere. He sets up both goals at Wednesday, and we win 2-1. He was an absolute pleasure to watch last season and we haven't had too many players like that in recent seasons.

Was it Tomlin who robbed Rooney as well?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Was it Tomlin who robbed Rooney as well?

Being a scouser, Rooney is probably used to it.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

In most of those games, Tomlin grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. Nobody else put their hand up. Take Leeds for example, we were dead and buried and two bits of magic got us one of the best feelings I've ever had at a game. Barnsley we were awful and he gets the brilliant pass for Ward and the winner. Luton, the game was terrible and he produces a bit of magic from nowhere. He sets up both goals at Wednesday, and we win 2-1. He was an absolute pleasure to watch last season and we haven't had too many players like that in recent seasons.

Absolutely spot on.

This season we've seen the result of not having him in the team. 2 gifts from a dreadful Forest defence, a scrambled Tomlin goal against a side 2-0 up and cruising, a well worked goal on the break at Preston, a good finish from Wilson, a deft pass from Ojo and 2 penalties. 3 goals through creativity and open play in 9 games isn't great.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

In most of those games, Tomlin grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. Nobody else put their hand up. Take Leeds for example, we were dead and buried and two bits of magic got us one of the best feelings I've ever had at a game. Barnsley we were awful and he gets the brilliant pass for Ward and the winner. Luton, the game was terrible and he produces a bit of magic from nowhere. He sets up both goals at Wednesday, and we win 2-1. He was an absolute pleasure to watch last season and we haven't had too many players like that in recent seasons.

Bang on the money

A vital player , a match winner , enigmatic

Duncan Mckenzie , Frank Worthington , Peter Whittingham

Pointless arguing with people sometimes , keyboard managers , keyboard pundits

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Was it Tomlin who robbed Rooney as well?

Indeed it was , but again some don't think that mattered

[splott parker]

Being a scouser, Rooney is probably used to it.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Indeed it was , but again some don't think that mattered

Mind you, I think Rooney was the only Derby player Tomlin could have outsprinted!

[Bobby Dandruff]

Bang on the money

A vital player , a match winner , enigmatic

Duncan Mckenzie , Frank Worthington , Peter Whittingham

Pointless arguing with people sometimes , keyboard managers , keyboard pundits

. Whereas Tomlin undoubtedly has qualities that most footballers don't possess, he isn't fit to lace their boots. Just THINK about what you are writing!

Seriously.........

[Jimmy the Jock]

So, a massive exaggeration then.

If your calculations are correct, Tomlin 'single-handedly' won City 14 points last season as opposed to 30.

Interesting that Tomlin gets credited with 'single-handedly' winning points for the team whenever he scores a goal. Is the same true for the rest of the team?

He was the difference last season .

A game changer . Almost everything good involved Tomlin.

Is it a coincidence we are looking poor without him?

[NYCBlue]

. Whereas Tomlin undoubtedly has qualities that most footballers don't possess, he isn't fit to lace their boots. Just THINK about what you are writing!

Seriously.........

This.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

. Whereas Tomlin undoubtedly has qualities that most footballers don't possess, he isn't fit to lace their boots. Just THINK about what you are writing!

Seriously.........

Worthington and Mckenzie were even bigger drinkers than tomlin and Worthington was on 20 fags a day

Tomlin is very much like them , enigmatic but on his day unplayable

You are a moaner and moan about cardiff city almost every time you are on here

I don't know why you bother , even if we were beating Liverpool and man United every time we played them you would think we should be scoring more goals or playing better football

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

He was the difference last season .

A game changer . Almost everything good involved Tomlin.

Is it a coincidence we are looking poor without him?

Everything went through him

Quality player

[the other bob wilson]

So, just out of interest, how did Tomlin of last season compare with the Jason Koumas of 05/06? For me, there were times when Tomlin was the only thing making games worthwhile, but he was no Koumas.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

So, just out of interest, how did Tomlin of last season compare with the Jason Koumas of 05/06? For me, there were times when Tomlin was the only thing making games worthwhile, but he was no Koumas.

I see tomlin as the same player as koumas

Drift in and out of games , often appeared uninterested but then suddenly a moment on magic

Enigmatic players

Koumas goal against Leeds to bring us level in the game we went on to win through a purse penalty was pure gold

[2b2bdoo]

Tomlin and Wilson are the key to us staying up no doubt about it.

[the other bob wilson]

Why do people see us as a possible relegation side?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Why do people see us as a possible relegation side?

Miserable, negative types ?

I think this side with a few tweaks could easily be pushing for promotion

12 games in they say is the time to judge a side but every season sides from mid table get it together and get promoted

We have had a poor start , the team know that and so does Harris but calling for a change in the manager now is plain daft

Give Harris and the players a chance

If my aunty had bollocks she would be my uncle

[NYCBlue]

Tomlin and Wilson are the key to us staying up no doubt about it.

Staying up?

[Bobby Dandruff]

Worthington and Mckenzie were even bigger drinkers than tomlin and Worthington was on 20 fags a day

Tomlin is very much like them , enigmatic but on his day unplayable

You are a moaner and moan about cardiff city almost every time you are on here

I don't know why you bother , even if we were beating Liverpool and man United every time we played them you would think we should be scoring more goals or playing better football

Hahahahahahaha.

Worthington played 828 games (largely in the top division) and scoring 260 times as well as playing for England 8 times.

McKenzie won the European Super Cup and was also played successfully mostly in the top division.

If you think that just because that were perceived as ‘Mavericks’ and therefore comparable to Tomlin then you really do need your head examining.

Comical.

[NYCBlue]

Miserable, negative types ?

I think this side with a few tweaks could easily be pushing for promotion

12 games in they say is the time to judge a side but every season sides from mid table get it together and get promoted

We have had a poor start , the team know that and so does Harris but calling for a change in the manager now is plain daft

Give Harris and the players a chance

If my aunty had bollocks she would be my uncle

Not these days.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Miserable, negative types ?

I think this side with a few tweaks could easily be pushing for promotion

12 games in they say is the time to judge a side but every season sides from mid table get it together and get promoted

We have had a poor start , the team know that and so does Harris but calling for a change in the manager now is plain daft

Give Harris and the players a chance

Do you think Harris knows what those tweaks are? Signs are that he doesn't. More worrying for me is the lack of effort from kickoff. I think most City fans don't mind if players are limited in terms of talent, but often aren't so forgiving towards players not giving 100%. I can see that, so can other City fans, so can pundits.

The side has problems, that we all know. We all have our opinions on what we think needs fixing. We don't all agree on these but it makes for interesting conversation. I have similar conversations on social media with others, so it's not just a message board thing. Ultimately the manager needs to sort out the problems. It's now his team, more or less. He needs to sort out these poor starts.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

So, just out of interest, how did Tomlin of last season compare with the Jason Koumas of 05/06? For me, there were times when Tomlin was the only thing making games worthwhile, but he was no Koumas.

Koumas. He had the talent and physical attributes to make it in the Prem and for a few seasons at Cardiff and WBA, he showed he had the application too. What a player.