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Thread: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

  1. #26

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Taking the knee and blm isn't helping racism much at all.
    I don’t think they were designed to help racism.

  2. #27

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    So how is booing something you disagree with racist but if you just think it and keep quiet your not racist?
    What if a black person boos taking the knee because they disagree with it would that person be a racist bonehead?
    As i said i work with a few black and asian people and the majority think the fist pumps , Taking the knee and blm isn't helping racism much at all.
    I agree. If you think about booing people protesting against racism then yeah your probably a racist. Or just plain thick.

  3. #28

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I don’t think they were designed to help racism.
    😂😂😂😂

  4. #29

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    😂😂😂😂
    Interesting opinions in this thread, many of us are old enough to remember the anti nazi league during the 70s and early 80's, a period that saw the rise of the far right politically in the national front. The ANL, as with most anti fascist groups had deep roots within the socialist workers party and the communist party, as well as plenty of others who weren't politically motivated but just hated fascism-i would bet that the ANL were much more political than BLM and certainly more organized. I'm guessing that the people who don't like the BLM movement felt the same way about the ANL?

  5. #30

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    QPR took the knee.
    Sorry. I'm confused. So what happened? QPR players knelt and Millwall players didn't?

  6. #31

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Sorry. I'm confused. So what happened? QPR players knelt and Millwall players didn't?
    Believe so, even more confusing as I remember weeks ago qpr had stopped kneeling.

  7. #32

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    So how is booing something you disagree with racist but if you just think it and keep quiet your not racist?
    What if a black person boos taking the knee because they disagree with it would that person be a racist bonehead?
    As i said i work with a few black and asian people and the majority think the fist pumps , Taking the knee and blm isn't helping racism much at all.
    I know plenty of black people , I don't know any that think the blm movement isn't helping racism at all . And I know that even if one or two didn't agree they certainly wouldn't boo lol

    Are you taking the piss ?

  8. #33

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    So how is booing something you disagree with racist but if you just think it and keep quiet your not racist?
    What if a black person boos taking the knee because they disagree with it would that person be a racist bonehead?
    As i said i work with a few black and asian people and the majority think the fist pumps , Taking the knee and blm isn't helping racism much at all.
    The keep quiet is from someone who disagrees with something but understands others do

    If the queen drives through town I think its bollocks but plenty of people support the royalty so I either stay in my house or walk past the Royal car and go about my day . I don't boo , I don't make offensive views known

    Its respecting others and stopping me from getting my head kicked in

    If someone doesn't agree with the knee then they have two options , boo and face a possible kicking or do what most people who are not racist would do ......accept that the protest is going on and say nothing

    If of course someone is proud to be a racist then boo away but if they are not careful they could end up in a confrontation

    I would avoid that myself

  9. #34

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    So just for clarification ...

    Anybody who disagree’s with “taking the knee” in its current guise is a racist, they don’t think that systemic racism exists and they don’t want to see an equal society even if they would prefer to see an egalitarian movement driven by a different vehicle to BLM?
    There is disagreeing and there is booing and hurling abuse

    You might well disagree but from your posts on here I think you wouldn't behave like a bonehead racist because you are clearly not one

  10. #35

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Apologies to az city, my post was meant to be a reply to this one by Wash DC Blue;-

    "So just for clarification ...

    Anybody who disagree’s with “taking the knee” in its current guise is a racist, they don’t think that systemic racism exists and they don’t want to see an equal society even if they would prefer to see an egalitarian movement driven by a different vehicle to BLM?"
    So essentially you are deducing that’s I am potentially a racist because I am uncomfortable with BLM as the prominent vehicle for change.

    That is really unfair in my opinion.
    I posted a video the other day with Trevor Phillips and Andrew Neil discussing BLM.
    They must be racist as well.

    😔

  11. #36

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    So essentially you are deducing that’s I am potentially a racist because I am uncomfortable with BLM as the prominent vehicle for change.

    That is really unfair in my opinion.
    I posted a video the other day with Trevor Phillips and Andrew Neil discussing BLM.
    They must be racist as well.

    😔
    To be fair Trevor Phillips is a bit of a plank

  12. #37

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    To be fair Trevor Phillips is a bit of a plank
    Watch the video Sludge.

    https://youtu.be/wY-rJu7aHvo

  13. #38

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Again, players taking a knee has nothing to do with BLM.

  14. #39

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Again, players taking a knee has nothing to do with BLM.
    Try telling Sky Sports that.

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    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Sorry. I'm confused. So what happened? QPR players knelt and Millwall players didn't?
    Both teams held up a banner at the start that said 'Equality - United For Change'

    On the whistle the QPR team took the knee and the Millwall players stood around looking awkward - not as a group, but scattered all over their side of the pitch.

    When QPR scored they took the knee again as part of their goal celebration.


    QPR deserve a great deal of respect - especially as the squad pushed for a change in club policy so that they could make that very public statement (even if it is 'just' a gesture).

  16. #41

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    I was watching the Football on Quest and they were effectively saying well done Millwall but to me the clubs actions were appalling and they were effectively trying to appease the racists amongst their fan base and avoid further criticism. The Chairman, who was singled out for praise, should be ashamed of their solution.

  17. #42

    Re: Millwall fans clapping players standing up v QPR

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Again, players taking a knee has nothing to do with BLM.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53098516

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