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    Re: Vaccine Latest

    It’s interesting that there appears to be a lot more information about the 800,000+ vaccinations in England and not much after posting only 35,000 in Wales and the challenging logistical issues being faced by Mr Gethins team

    Did Wales actually order the number of vaccines required or is there a more straightforward answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Based on the graph I saw and them staing they hope to do 100,000 by the end of Jan, then on 100,000 a month I have to wait about 9 months and I'm quite high up the list.
    100,000 a month? It needs doing a week not a month

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    Quote Originally Posted by light up the darkness View Post
    It’s interesting that there appears to be a lot more information about the 800,000+ vaccinations in England and not much after posting only 35,000 in Wales and the challenging logistical issues being faced by Mr Gethins team

    Did Wales actually order the number of vaccines required or is there a more straightforward answer
    The UK got a supply of vaccinations. Wales got its share based on population.

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    Just listening to a fasinating interview with Sir John Bell Canadian the eminent immunologist and geneticist, his main points :

    The South African new strain is very worrying ,a new vaccine will need to be found but will easily be done as lots if variants will appear .

    AstraZeneca has a million vaccines in the country now .

    We should quickly move to a one dose of the AstraZeneca Vaccine policy and delay second

    AstraZeneca could easliy ramp up manufacturing to 2 to 5 million a week .

    On the above figures we could see 26 million vaccinated by easter and that would protect those who need immediate protection and puts life back to some sort form of normality .

    When asked about single dose of tye AstraZeneca dose he stated it would keep folk out of hospital the second dose is needed as a kick on but not crtitcal at this stage single dose fires up the antibodies and lymps to fight the virus .

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    Re: Vaccine Latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    The UK got a supply of vaccinations. Wales got its share based on population.
    So the choke point is in the actual delivery. Interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Based on the graph I saw and them staing they hope to do 100,000 by the end of Jan, then on 100,000 a month I have to wait about 9 months and I'm quite high up the list.
    I didn't know this so I googled Wales vaccination rates hoping that you were wrong because that seems incredibly slow. Didn't find any answers but came across this article https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...covid-19526106

    Of ALL the photos they could have put showing someone getting the vaccine, bearing in mind we need as many people to get vaccinated as possible and some people are nervous about injections anyway and even more so about this one, that's the photo they choose. Honestly, walesonline are just

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I didn't know this so I googled Wales vaccination rates hoping that you were wrong because that seems incredibly slow. Didn't find any answers but came across this article https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...covid-19526106

    Of ALL the photos they could have put showing someone getting the vaccine, bearing in mind we need as many people to get vaccinated as possible and some people are nervous about injections anyway and even more so about this one, that's the photo they choose. Honestly, walesonline are just
    Yeah great stuff. Saying that this is the site that recycles Wales hardest rugby players every few weeks.

    Ive had a chat with a mate and he didnt even feel it. Says arm was slightly sore after.

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by light up the darkness View Post
    So the choke point is in the actual delivery. Interesting
    There arent enough trained NHS staff to deliver the vaccinations. Those who have experience of delivering vaccinations are finding that there are a huge number of hurdles to get over (Level 1 and Level 2 qualifications) that means red tape is holding back delivery. BJ has waffled through his interview with Andrew Marr this morning claiming that NHS will get rid of such red tape to speed the process of vaccination delivery up. For those who havent realised, BJ doesnt do preparation. Its surprising he turned up for the interview this morning. That's another of his tactics. When in doubt, dont turn up and send somebody else instead.
    Ditto, not enough trained NHS staff to staff the HDU only Nightingale hospitals effectively. But they look good on tv. Suffice to say these temporary hospitals are not geared up for non-Covid patients and are not suitable for general overflow situations......unless a lot more money is spent on basic facilities that you would expect in hospitals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by light up the darkness View Post
    So the choke point is in the actual delivery. Interesting
    As was the logistical problems with the Newport Lab and PPE were simply not good at it call in the Army Mr Drakeford they have logistical skills you dontb

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    There arent enough trained NHS staff to deliver the vaccinations. Those who have experience of delivering vaccinations are finding that there are a huge number of hurdles to get over (Level 1 and Level 2 qualifications) that means red tape is holding back delivery. BJ has waffled through his interview with Andrew Marr this morning claiming that NHS will get rid of such red tape to speed the process of vaccination delivery up. For those who havent realised, BJ doesnt do preparation. Its surprising he turned up for the interview this morning. That's another of his tactics. When in doubt, dont turn up and send somebody else instead.
    Ditto, not enough trained NHS staff to staff the HDU only Nightingale hospitals effectively. But they look good on tv. Suffice to say these temporary hospitals are not geared up for non-Covid patients and are not suitable for general overflow situations......unless a lot more money is spent on basic facilities that you would expect in hospitals.
    We also need to remember the ailing Welsh NHS system before this hit , just look at Sepsis death in Wales v others countries very worrying

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    My wife is due to have her first jab this week. Colleagues of hers who have appointments this week for their second, have had texts this morning cancelling those appointments.
    I guess this is because the gap is now being extended, but whether that gives enough time for those appointments to be filled I'm not that confident.

  13. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    My wife is due to have her first jab this week. Colleagues of hers who have appointments this week for their second, have had texts this morning cancelling those appointments.
    I guess this is because the gap is now being extended, but whether that gives enough time for those appointments to be filled I'm not that confident.
    Must be a welcome relief knowing your wife is due the jab ,pleased for you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Must be a welcome relief knowing your wife is due the jab ,pleased for you .
    Cheers. She's getting it for work. She's more concerned about me getting it tbh as I'm in the extremely vulnerable category. Just find the delays for the second jab very frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Cheers. She's getting it for work. She's more concerned about me getting it tbh as I'm in the extremely vulnerable category. Just find the delays for the second jab very frustrating.
    I can imagine, got a few in the family in thier late 70's they are desperate for the jab to enable some mental relief, tough times, be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I can imagine, got a few in the family in thier late 70's they are desperate for the jab to enable some mental relief, tough times, be safe.
    You too. I'm a 52 year old queue jumper myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    As was the logistical problems with the Newport Lab and PPE were simply not good at it call in the Army Mr Drakeford they have logistical skills you dontb
    There are three national pharmaceutical wholesalers that can deliver cold chain medicines to all 10,000 community pharmacies in the UK at least once a day. They do the same service to hospitals.

    There is a national pharmaceutical wholesaler based in South Wales which specialises in delivering medicines, particularly vaccines, direct to GP surgeries.

    Are we using them?.....No. . In Wales I understand the Blood transfusion service is being used to move the vaccines around. With great respect to it this is not its area of expertise

    It's hard to get data on the number of vaccines in Wales, but seems that Wales has taken delivery of 200,000 Pfizer doses and 20,000 AZ

  18. #43

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    We're still miles ahead of most European countries, when it comes to the vaccine. Most front-line NHS staff in Wales has already had the first jab. We're getting there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    There are three national pharmaceutical wholesalers that can deliver cold chain medicines to all 10,000 community pharmacies in the UK at least once a day. They do the same service to hospitals.

    There is a national pharmaceutical wholesaler based in South Wales which specialises in delivering medicines, particularly vaccines, direct to GP surgeries.

    Are we using them?.....No. . In Wales I understand the Blood transfusion service is being used to move the vaccines around. With great respect to it this is not its area of expertise

    It's hard to get data on the number of vaccines in Wales, but seems that Wales has taken delivery of 200,000 Pfizer doses and 20,000 AZ
    Cheers you've just provided more information than the Welsh Government, what is there problem with information share .

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