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Torn on this as for a few reasons, I really don't like the concept and I don't think it will have much of an effect. I would imagine table service, proper enforced social distancing in pubs and a return to mask wearing when you are up and about would have a far greater effect on transmission than a likely 4 week christmas free for all of vaccinated people who can still pass the virus around. I don't know what it is like in Wales but here in my part of England, I am one of, I would say 15-20% of people who still wear masks at all, the majority can't be ****ed now because of the hapless comms from number 10.
What a mess this all is. Terrible communication and implementation by all governments and the arbitrary figure of 10,000 (but 9,999 is OK) re. Covid passports. Terrible enforcement of rules (laws) already in place. Terrible personal responsibility regularly shown by Welsh people and the rest of the UK. 6 pages of discussion in November 2021. What a mess.
The passes/tests are there for good reason and ought to be extended. The problem is it can’t be policed as those being asked to check are low paid people who quite rightly are not paid enough to get their heads knocked off.
Exactly why should lowly paid part time bar staff have to put up with yet more potential aggro. They're not paid enough.Originally Posted by Dave Blue
I had my booster today .
The sooner people are forced to get a jab or three,
either by the unpopular "compulsory vax", or the marginally less unpopular
making it too difficult to go about life without getting vaxed,
the sooner we'll be out of this covid mess and get back to normal.
Shields up Scotty!
Agree with this 100%, even on TFL mask wearing seems to be at an all time low.
Yes, I read that.
The same as they would if they'd refused someone alcohol, or wouldn't serve them because they don't have proof of age.
Pubs seem to manage throwing people out all the time without bouncers...
The vaccines absolutely do reduce your chances of catching covid and therefore lower transmission.
Bizarre that this "U cun stil katch et" argument has even emerged.
The boosters bring antibodies over the 2500U/mg limit on the antibody test and so far on trial patients this persists past 8 months.
Wales has Covid passes, England does not.
When will Wales see the benefits of this measure in the data, as as far as I can tell it’s not showing at the moment?
Exactly. It's the raison d'être of vaccination - any vaccination.
I get the train a lot, go shopping, to pubs and restaurants etc..I get about!
Mask wearing has definitely reduced here in Cardiff. Whereas even in September at the start of term every parent wore a mask to school drop off it's probably 50% now. Local trains (where u do have to wear one) is maybe 60-70%. Shops probably similar. Pubs etc, maybe 5- 10% will have a mask on if at the bar etc.
Was in Scotland recently and was pretty much the same although I didnyt get a train and it was more common for bar staff to wear masks there and ask you to do the same whilst ordering
Not really considering it’s a fact.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59344564
'A cinema has been told to shut down after the owner defied the law and refused to ask for Covid passes'.
Meanwhile, you could go to a busy pub around the corner without the need for a Covid pass.
It’s complete and utter bollocks. Following the science? Are they ****.
Awesome - it means I can have a safe pint away from anti-vaxxing, brexiteering, petrol panic buying, toilet roll hoarding, mrs browns boys watching idiots
I've just spent 10 days in my home with a double vaxed member of my family who was tested +, another double vaxed member of my extended family is currently sat in his house with a + test, I think I'll stick with Geert Vanden Bossche and his alternative science, I've just about had a f*ck full of 2 years offishul government science, are we still on his couple of weeks to flatten the curve ?, there are many peer reviewed decorated scientists out there who have been shut out of this pandemic and after 2 years of Johnson Whitty and Valance in trying to bring this under control, isn't it about time that a fresh view was sought ?.
My sister lives in Scotland and my parents have just moved up there, albeit the Highlands so maybe a little different to more populated areas. Masks are pretty common up that way, basically everybody in the supermarket but I don't think the 'community' stuff ever really stopped when there was lockdown elsewhere. That being said, there were long periods of time where they didn't have a case within 10 miles of them so I can see why.
Can't understand people with your line of thinking regarding 9999 analogy.
Bottom 3 teams get relegated in football but 4th from bottom doesn't thinking. Weird mun
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