What do you propose then-What's the correct course of action?Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
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What do you propose then-What's the correct course of action?
I'm all for the pass me.
Anything to p I ss off anti vaxxers.
As long as the old farts of this world don't dilly dally at the bar, fiddling around on the phone
If the use of the pass helps cut hospital covid admissions, which in turn allows nhs staff to treat patients with other conditions, then it's hard to argue against it shirley?
We were told our sacrifices were necessary to 'save the NHS'. Bollocks. For nearly 2 years nobody apart from emergency and COVID cases have been admitted to hospital. Imagine damming a river for 2yrs and then opening it up. That's what you have now, but this Govt - and all others - totally evaded the question, in fact no-one dared ever ask. Germany and Nederlands today have recorded the highest EVER number of cases. Don't you think it's time now to start questioning what 'we' have been told for nearly 2 yrs.. ?
We were also told that nobody except those who work in the public sector would have a job left by the end of 2020. And we were told that professional football could not and would not be played during any sort of lockdowns.
Can you remember who told us those things? I'll give you a clue: it was you.
(Incidentally, based on my own experiences during recent months, I firmly believe Covid passes are a nonsense and a total waste of time.)
You were chatting shit at the start of the pandemic and you still are now ffs. How can someone be this arrogant?
Because he probably believes that his liberty is more important than people getting severely ill or dying, and he probably doesn't trust the science or those who are making decisions on our behalf based on research. I can't think of any other reason. Maybe he should tell us what the right thing is to do in this situation so that we can understand where he is coming from.
Come off it. You know what my post said :
Don't you think it's time now to start questioning what 'we' have been told for nearly 2 yrs..
I'm not sure, ask the concerned.
I was just pointing out you're a new user and the other fella hasn't been on here in the time you've been a member, so it occurred to me that you wouldn't know of that person, being new and him not being active since you joined.
Had an hour spare in the works van on the way from work, I don't need to be bothered to notice and point something out
Welcome to the board
Covid passes have been strictly applied in Germany in all type of settings, and they are in big trouble as we speak .
I've shown or tried to show my pass a few times no real examination took place.
With regards to the predicted job losses Furlough has certainly worked in reducing job losses.
These passes, don't they just allow someone to know that you've been vaccinated? That's their sole purpose, Right?
I've been double-vaccinated. My Covid pass is in letter form. I've been to four gigs in four different venues in Cardiff since they became compulsory. This is what happened:
Gig 1: I was asked to have my Covid pass ready in the queue outside. When I got to the front of the queue a couple of minutes later, I told the girl on the door I had an NHS letter, attempted to show it but was told it was fine and was waved in (it could have been an electricity bill for all the difference it made).
Gig 2: Asked if I had a Covid pass, replied that I did and was waved in - I didn't even get as far as taking it our of my pocket.
Gig 3: Was not asked for a Covid pass at any stage.
Gig 4: Was asked for my Covid pass, produced the letter and was then asked for further ID to prove the letter was mine (fortunately, my debit card was accepted as good enough, as that's all I had on me at the time).
It's an absolute nonsense that I can get on a busy bus or train without showing any sort of pass (and masks seem to be a thing of the past for half the people on public transport these days), I can have a few beers in a busy pub without showing any kind of pass, but I then have to show a pass to enter a gig venue. Utter bollocks.
The whole thing is totally half-arsed. It's a nuisance for no good reason.
Yes but you could be showng anyones if doorman pays little interest, you can download a pass for yourself and send it as a PDF as an e mail to someone else to show at a door
And what happens if the person kicks off as they surely will how will a smaller pub deal with that without bouncers?
Agreed mate, went to Wales v New Zealand, a cursory glance at my phone, but could have been any QR code, same as down the City. Waste of time
People don't want lockdowns but then they won't do the bare minimum to try and keep people safe.
I'm fine with anything that makes sense and has a point. However, the Covid pass system is just nonsense.
Perhaps you don't use public transport or visit shops regularly (and that's not a piss-take - maybe you just don't). I catch a bus home from work most days and frequently wander around the shops in the city centre during my lunchtimes. The percentage of people not wearing masks on the buses and in shops seems to rise gradually every week, but there is no attempt from anyone, anywhere to question those who are not bothering.
Wearing a mask on public transport and in shops is, to me, the bare minimum, but it's not happening and we don't hear anything about it from Drakeford and Co. Why not? Is wearing a mask in these settings no longer compulsory? Or is doing so ineffective in combating the virus? Whatever the reality, we should be in a situation whereby something is either necessary and enforced, or it isn't necessary and isn't compulsory. Not the half-arsed nonsense we have at the moment.
I'm under the impression that face masks are mandatory in enclosed public places, which, by my understanding, means it's the law. Although prepared to be corrected.
How would they deal with it normally? People kicking off at bartenders isn’t something that’s not existed before 18 months ago.
Torn on this as for a few reasons, I really don't like the concept and I don't think it will have much of an effect. I would imagine table service, proper enforced social distancing in pubs and a return to mask wearing when you are up and about would have a far greater effect on transmission than a likely 4 week christmas free for all of vaccinated people who can still pass the virus around. I don't know what it is like in Wales but here in my part of England, I am one of, I would say 15-20% of people who still wear masks at all, the majority can't be ****ed now because of the hapless comms from number 10.
Agree with this 100%, even on TFL mask wearing seems to be at an all time low.
What a mess this all is. Terrible communication and implementation by all governments and the arbitrary figure of 10,000 (but 9,999 is OK) re. Covid passports. Terrible enforcement of rules (laws) already in place. Terrible personal responsibility regularly shown by Welsh people and the rest of the UK. 6 pages of discussion in November 2021. What a mess.
Can't understand people with your line of thinking regarding 9999 analogy.
Bottom 3 teams get relegated in football but 4th from bottom doesn't thinking. Weird mun
The passes/tests are there for good reason and ought to be extended. The problem is it can’t be policed as those being asked to check are low paid people who quite rightly are not paid enough to get their heads knocked off.
Exactly why should lowly paid part time bar staff have to put up with yet more potential aggro. They're not paid enough.
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