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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    The Beatles have been well documented over the last 50 years and I know the story, bit sick of it if I’m honest.
    I recall watching that 6 part series on tv about 20 years ago, the anthology was it? That was good but I think this is just covering the live recording of the album as they constructed it over two weeks…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    I recall watching that 6 part series on tv about 20 years ago, the anthology was it? That was good but I think this is just covering the live recording of the album as they constructed it over two weeks…..
    So they’ve made a series and stretched it to 8 hours, can’t see it throwing up anything we don’t know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    So they’ve made a series and stretched it to 8 hours, can’t see it throwing up anything we don’t know.
    Tell Me Why you say that, you need Help if you can’t find Something new, I reckon it may throw up unknown anecdotes Here, There and Everwhere.

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    Can't see the point of watching 463 minutes of film when you can see 365 x 1min 14secs segments of it on Youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    So they’ve made a series and stretched it to 8 hours, can’t see it throwing up anything we don’t know.
    Oh Darling, don't be like that!

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    Re: The new Beatles film/series

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    So they’ve made a series and stretched it to 8 hours, can’t see it throwing up anything we don’t know.
    Surely you didn’t expect some new info about them?
    I’m just happy to see how they function and work together to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    So they’ve made a series and stretched it to 8 hours, can’t see it throwing up anything we don’t know.
    They made a 6 hour fly on the wall documentary from 60 hours of footage. There is most definitely and undeniably things you didn't know and things you've never seen before in this film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    They made a 6 hour fly on the wall documentary from 60 hours of footage. There is most definitely and undeniably things you didn't know and things you've never seen before in this film.

    Exactly. Why did George leave the group. 2 weeks ago, we all thought it had something to do with the bust-up with McCartney. Turns out he was whinging a bit, some justified because his songs were being ignored, some not. Paul working closely with John on Two of Us upset him, he flounced.

    John Lennon was, we are constantly told by people who don't know a lot, THE main guy in the Beatles. McCartney, him of the Frog Chorus, was supposedly hanging onto him. This documentary proves otherwise. Lennon was addicted to Heroin at this time. McCartney is working on 2/3 songs some days, and not just fillers. The Long and Winding Road, Get Back,Two of Us, Let it Be. Three would become number 1s. Two of Us is one of their most underrated songs. He was also shaping "Don't Let me Down". Judging by the documentary, I think you could easily make that Lennon song a 30-70 split in Lennon's favour. Also interesting that Lennon - the hard rocker - wants the lyrics to be corny. So, McCartney wasn't always the corny one as the NME (under the influence of pro-Lennon journalists) portrayed. Remember, NME gave Ram a very good review, but this was pulled and a negative review was set up instead.

    McCartney holding back tears after saying "Then there were two" as Harrison left, and Lennon hadn't shown up. The guy was under huge pressure, and was showing huge productivity as his way to hold the band together. "I'm scared to be the boss". Harrison is already talking about doing solo stuff, Lennon's head is elsewhere.

    Complaints about McCartney spending lots of time on his own songs seem founded, but I think his songs had a bit more complexity - certainly Let it Be, and he plainly had more songs than the others to work on.

    Harrison having a number of really good songs, Old Brown Shoe written in a day.

    Nostalgia, very interesting to see how often they refer to the past. Comparing Beatles '65 with Beatles '66 is like decades have passed. That is how much they changed music, and in a short time. They already view songs like "Help!" as an oldie. It was only 3 years old. Artistically, they were moving ahead. Full steam. But, an "unplugged" type album after the variety of the White Album and the extravagance of Pepper seemed to be the wrong choice.

    Unable to write music, they could communicate what was needed. Lennon and McCartney still had a working relationship, but Lennon was veering in directions that McCartney would not consider - especially some substances.

    The documentary is worth watching for the birth of "Get Back". It takes McCartney minutes. It's worth it for the rooftop concert which, in my opinion, is one of their best ever performances as a group.

    If Starr was able to go abroad, if they had more time, and if they did a live show somewhere then, in my opinion, there was a chance that they would have stuck at it a bit longer. It is clear they are fed up of just producing albums and are feeling a bit constrained. "What's the end product" McCartney comments. "It's not just for the money now".

    And "On the Road to Marrakech" (Jealous Guy) had really nice lyrics too.

    It's history, but it hasn't gone. Their influence can be heard to this day.

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    Re: The new Beatles film/series

    Quote Originally Posted by Do me a Faerber View Post
    Exactly. Why did George leave the group. 2 weeks ago, we all thought it had something to do with the bust-up with McCartney. Turns out he was whinging a bit, some justified because his songs were being ignored, some not. Paul working closely with John on Two of Us upset him, he flounced.

    John Lennon was, we are constantly told by people who don't know a lot, THE main guy in the Beatles. McCartney, him of the Frog Chorus, was supposedly hanging onto him. This documentary proves otherwise. Lennon was addicted to Heroin at this time. McCartney is working on 2/3 songs some days, and not just fillers. The Long and Winding Road, Get Back,Two of Us, Let it Be. Three would become number 1s. Two of Us is one of their most underrated songs. He was also shaping "Don't Let me Down". Judging by the documentary, I think you could easily make that Lennon song a 30-70 split in Lennon's favour. Also interesting that Lennon - the hard rocker - wants the lyrics to be corny. So, McCartney wasn't always the corny one as the NME (under the influence of pro-Lennon journalists) portrayed. Remember, NME gave Ram a very good review, but this was pulled and a negative review was set up instead.

    McCartney holding back tears after saying "Then there were two" as Harrison left, and Lennon hadn't shown up. The guy was under huge pressure, and was showing huge productivity as his way to hold the band together. "I'm scared to be the boss". Harrison is already talking about doing solo stuff, Lennon's head is elsewhere.

    Complaints about McCartney spending lots of time on his own songs seem founded, but I think his songs had a bit more complexity - certainly Let it Be, and he plainly had more songs than the others to work on.

    Harrison having a number of really good songs, Old Brown Shoe written in a day.

    Nostalgia, very interesting to see how often they refer to the past. Comparing Beatles '65 with Beatles '66 is like decades have passed. That is how much they changed music, and in a short time. They already view songs like "Help!" as an oldie. It was only 3 years old. Artistically, they were moving ahead. Full steam. But, an "unplugged" type album after the variety of the White Album and the extravagance of Pepper seemed to be the wrong choice.

    Unable to write music, they could communicate what was needed. Lennon and McCartney still had a working relationship, but Lennon was veering in directions that McCartney would not consider - especially some substances.

    The documentary is worth watching for the birth of "Get Back". It takes McCartney minutes. It's worth it for the rooftop concert which, in my opinion, is one of their best ever performances as a group.

    If Starr was able to go abroad, if they had more time, and if they did a live show somewhere then, in my opinion, there was a chance that they would have stuck at it a bit longer. It is clear they are fed up of just producing albums and are feeling a bit constrained. "What's the end product" McCartney comments. "It's not just for the money now".

    And "On the Road to Marrakech" (Jealous Guy) had really nice lyrics too.

    It's history, but it hasn't gone. Their influence can be heard to this day.
    Very nice post. McCartney always gets Frog Chorus and so on chucked at him, but the truth is that he created a body of musical work better than any other British songwriter and arguably any other 20th century songwriter globally. Seeing him develop Get Back in less than the time it takes to finish a cup of tea is astounding.

    He was also the one into the avant garde scene, not Lennon. I think Lennon was the main guy in the early days, perhaps even up to 1965, but when they went stratospheric with creativity, it was McCartney leading the way, not Lennon.

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