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  1. #1

    Re: Levelling up defined.

    The Getting Building Fund had already agreed projects by August 2020 according to this from the department of (drum roll) Levelling Up!

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/getting-building-fund

    There may have been many other examples of the fund being used "properly", and the original article may well have been designed to "enrage" as you put it.

    That doesn't alter the fact that the article appears in my opinion at least to be factual. The only person unapologetically spreading untruths her would appear to be you - "It looks like this project DID NOT receive levelling up funding."

  2. #2

    Re: Levelling up defined.

    Quote Originally Posted by Veg1960 View Post
    The Getting Building Fund had already agreed projects by August 2020 according to this from the department of (drum roll) Levelling Up!

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/getting-building-fund

    There may have been many other examples of the fund being used "properly", and the original article may well have been designed to "enrage" as you put it.

    That doesn't alter the fact that the article appears in my opinion at least to be factual. The only person unapologetically spreading untruths her would appear to be you - "It looks like this project DID NOT receive levelling up funding."
    I guess 'Levelling up' can be considered a funding stream in itself (announced in Nov 2020 as part of a 4.8bn fund) or as part of a wider agenda, or thematic policy concept, dating from before that date.

    Given someone posted to a very specific funding bid, and labelled it 'Levelling up defined' it's reasonable to assume this was posted as an example of the Levelling Up funding. It wasn't.

    The money also wasn't granted by the government. It was granted by the Local Enterprise Partnership.

    It also wasn't "to fill in potholes for a Conservative peer" as Lisa Nandy (who is an intelligent MP and should be above that kind of crap) stated.

    Either way, there is far more to the story than first suggested, the government didn't award the grant and it has nothing to do with the Levelling Up Funding, but perhaps could be considered part of a more general levelling up agenda, which to be honest is probably something we all support in principle.

    The point is, these things are complex, and trying to enrage people into thinking that the government is always corrupt and forever mis-spending money "on fixing Conservatives potholes" is entirely disingenuous and the topic deserves a far better quality of debate IMO

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    Re: Levelling up defined.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I guess 'Levelling up' can be considered a funding stream in itself (announced in Nov 2020 as part of a 4.8bn fund) or as part of a wider agenda, or thematic policy concept, dating from before that date.

    Given someone posted to a very specific funding bid, and labelled it 'Levelling up defined' it's reasonable to assume this was posted as an example of the Levelling Up funding. It wasn't.

    The money also wasn't granted by the government. It was granted by the Local Enterprise Partnership.

    It also wasn't "to fill in potholes for a Conservative peer" as Lisa Nandy (who is an intelligent MP and should be above that kind of crap) stated.

    Either way, there is far more to the story than first suggested, the government didn't award the grant and it has nothing to do with the Levelling Up Funding, but perhaps could be considered part of a more general levelling up agenda, which to be honest is probably something we all support in principle.

    The point is, these things are complex, and trying to enrage people into thinking that the government is always corrupt and forever mis-spending money "on fixing Conservatives potholes" is entirely disingenuous and the topic deserves a far better quality of debate IMO
    Having their cake and eating it then, where have I heard that before?

  4. #4

    Re: Levelling up defined.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Having their cake and eating it then, where have I heard that before?
    I'm not sure what you mean on that really. I don't think it's a case of that, but quite clearly the story is significantly less black and white than Lisa Nandy tried to portray it.

  5. #5

    Re: Levelling up defined.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean on that really. I don't think it's a case of that, but quite clearly the story is significantly less black and white than Lisa Nandy tried to portray it.
    You’re saying it’s got nothing to do with levelling up funding, but could be considered part of a more general levelling up agenda, so it’s seems like a Johnson type best of both worlds situation to me.

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