Reply With Quote🤣🤣Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
They literally have posted a video of her speech (quite refreshing actually) and you are shouting at the messenger.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/12/e...ntl/index.html
Some interesting speculation there on what route they could take in an invasion.
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They literally have posted a video of her speech (quite refreshing actually) and you are shouting at the messenger.
It's going to be a big old week. I still just can't see it. It seems such a stupid and reckless move in a way that for example the Crimea wasn't .
You just proclaimed your love for the place. I've lost count of the number of times you've posted links from sites related to Guido Fawkes, not to mention other right wing sites.
Yet, you're very open minded and have a balanced opinion.
The sheer idiocy of that pair never ceases to amaze me. I'm sure that the Russian point of view will also get support from a lot of the trump/farage fans aswell. Nothing shows good strong leadership quite like invading your neighbour.
Are you serious?
Firstly, others are talking about people parroting a pro-kremlin position and I illustrated that with a very prominent politician doing so on video. That's relevent. Not my fault I can't see it on other media.
Being open minded means getting information from a diversity of news sources. That's good!
Guido Fawkes takes a pop at all sides. It's very often laying into the Tories.
If you read it, you would know that. And if you don't read it, by definition you don't know what you are talking about
Now, the topic here is the Ukraine and within that people spreading pro-kremlin opinions, so I have no idea why you are deflecting things at all
100%. Strong man, conspiracy theories, questioning the west and Soros and the like. It's a toxic mix.
And as I mentioned, we shouldn't delude ourselves that everything is in one direction. Putting ourselves in Russia's shoes is critical in understanding their actions.
But claiming the west or NATO are the aggressors here is plainly absurd and just typical or the standard anti-American tropes that are pretty common amongst many in those circles.
The problem is that Putin has been allowed to get away with so much again and again, without any real push-back from the west, he's probably just seeing how far he can take it.
Yeah I can see what u mean there. He has had us over a barrel for so long. Doesn't have any opposition to worry about and can push us all the way then step back and claim victory. Or get away with it like in the Crimea. It's a very difficult situation
indeed
The Bully that is Russia and Putin obviously need a deterrent and if its NATO, then lets welcome the Ukraine inNothing to see there
Dianne Abbott's views are mirrored by a fair few on here.
Go forth Comrades...and multiply.
https://youtu.be/HXBCRBVYlsI
Russia plots 'false flag' attack to provoke war with Ukraine
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...box=1644738022
Interested to know who your comments are aimed at, I’ve only see one post siding with Putin in this thread and I’m guessing that he would only call someone comrade if he was taking the piss.
..says Ben Wallance.
Surely putin wouldn’t do something so devious!
.Surely putin wouldn’t do something so devious!
The man is worse than devious, the theatre he has created proves this , he won't blink an eyelid when the bodybags start returning to the Motherland.
Diane Abbot is spot on
Jeepers does anyone still listen to Dianne , I thought folk had moved on from that era ??
Simple solution:
Russia joins NATO.
for anyone still labouring under the idea that Putin is in any way reasonable, there was a thread on twitter a while back listing some of the people the Putin regime have had murdered, mostly journalists that were thrown out of a 5th floor window or similar.
it was absolutely chilling, in not only the sheer number of them but the relatively minor level of transgression that will get you killed under this regime.
I'll see if I can find it again.
No chance.Simple solution:
Russia joins NATO.
Better off standing up to the cretin and his disgusting regime.
What will stop Russia is Germany and Europe putting up more forceful barriers , 40% of Europes gas is from Russia surely its bargaining chip although it seems Germany doesn't want to upset thier cosy gas supply deal, they are by far the biggest user of Russian gas .
I must have missed something here but I cannot recall reading any details about these so-called devastating sanctions that will be imposed on Russia if they invade Ukraine. What does Russia depend on the West for? OK we buy their oil/gas but surely that is a huge bargaining chip for them not for us - they can simply turn off the taps and accept the loss of revenue I suppose. Countries like Germany will be on their knees to them within days if that happened. As for the UK, Scotland could stop sending Scotch whiskey and Wales could stop sending Felinfoel Double Dragon ale and Caerphilly cheese I guess which would have a huge impact I'm sure.
I have heard that the Russian oligarchs and their agents, subsidiary companies and front men tend to hold most of their money in bank accounts, properties and companies in the west - and that going after them in that direction will have a srious impact on their wealth.
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