Reply With QuoteThere seems to be very little that can be done
In reality Ukraine is being fed to Putin in exchange for peace in Europe
It's a load of cack
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Now is the time to hit Russia with a strategic hammer blow. There is no point in negotiating with Putin and the only way a palace coup will take place will be if Russia is hit and hit hard. His coterie of sycophants will hopefully then topple him and make humanity and common sense prevail. NATO has overwhelming force of arms in every department. The sight of Macron sitting at the end of a 40ft. table having “peace talks” with Putin must rank as one of the most humiliating scenes in politics of modern times. If Putin wins then where does he stop because his perception of NATO is an organisation being both spineless and gutless. Ben Wallace, Defence Minister, epitomises this.
Lessons from history must be learned. The time for vigils, prayers, acceptance of refugees, clapping Ukrainian politicians, professing solidarity for Ukraine and the like is past. Putin doesn’t give a shit. It’s time to take some action and not just sanctions.!!!
There seems to be very little that can be done
In reality Ukraine is being fed to Putin in exchange for peace in Europe
It's a load of cack
If NATO gets stuck in, then 💩tin will be able to say “I told ewe”, even though he started this thing.
The answer is first the Russian people to topple him, so the real war is the information one.
Russians are tough...my arse...the internet is down and the banks have no money they cant buy anything and there's no footie....boo ****ing hooOriginally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
NATO is a defense organisation, so they can't initiate an attack another country. Any action would have to be taken outside of NATO as things stand.
NATO will look after their own. They won't get involved militarily unless Putin invades a NATO country. Then it's WWIII.
Sanctions are already starting to hurt Russia, but Putin cares more about lines on a map than the welfare of his own citizens.
Best option : his own cronies realise that he's unhinged and take him out.
Second best :Black ops take him out
Worst option, Nato fires a shot - Putin fires a nuke.
This is a six-minute video of an English-speaking Russian who has an entirely different perspective on what's happening in Ukraine today and why. He also mentions uncomfortable reminders about all those freedom and democracy loving bombs that rained down on Libya, Serbia, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan by NATO and its member countries.
A Little insight into the "Russian invasion". Warning: This isn't mainstream. https://www.bitchute.com/video/GAH7af5xe3Qp/
So Nuclear weapons, whilst being touted as a deterrent, also allow crackpot Dictators to cold bloodily murder thousands of innocent people, and blow buildings to bits, and basically just get away with it, whilst the rest of the world looks on.
What a monster we’ve created!
what do you suggest?
My preferred option would be to inform Putin that unless hostilities cease by a certain time and date Moscow would be erased from the map. This is obviously not going to happen as unfortunately no Western leader comes close to JFK. At the least we should impose a no fly zone and make sure that no seaborne landings around Odessa are fruitless with the strongest appropriate defensive weapons put in place.
Bosnia, Afghanistan, Libya.....
The rhetoric is one thing - with Article 5 being an exception to the normal rule - the reality another.
Is it insight? Or is it just some bloke's opinion that you happen to like or agree with?
Then it's game over for Russia as USA can out nuke them. If Putin is suffering from dementia or has a terminal illness and doesn't give a phuck anymore.Then all his family will die too.
What happens if hostilities don't cease by the time and date given? (as would likely be the case)
What's your next move?
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Moscow would be erased from the map.
Can’t you read !!!! 😁
A Russian has a different perspective? Amazing.
I'm glad you're not in charge of diplomatic relationsthreatening to murder 12 million Russian civilians probably ain't the best idea. And the consensus seems to be that trying to impose a no-fly zone would also likely lead to nuclear war as it would mean the world's two largest air forces going head to head.
This 'NATO can out-nuke them' idea is a funny one. Dr. David Kelly helped expose the Soviet Union's biological weapons programme decades ago; the implication being that bio weapons would be used in conjunction with nuclear weapons to ensure total annihilation. Nobody is winning that fight.
A diplomatic resolution is surely the preferred way to solve this? Western leaders need to handle this one with care.
It's a plan genius in its simplicity
Crazily the world's two largest air forces are the US Air Force and the US Navy. Obviously if you're lumping them into one country Russia is second thoughI'm glad you're not in charge of diplomatic relations
This 'NATO can out-nuke them' idea is a funny one. Dr. David Kelly helped expose the Soviet Union's biological weapons programme decades ago; the implication being that bio weapons would be used in conjunction with nuclear weapons to ensure total annihilation. Nobody is winning that fight.
A diplomatic resolution is surely the preferred way to solve this? Western leaders need to handle this one with care.
Ooh, good statCrazily the world's two largest air forces are the US Air Force and the US Navy. Obviously if you're lumping them into one country Russia is second though
He will stop when he has enough of Ukraine he wants , and slowly but surely we will start to drop away sanctions , and Germany will cozy back up to them for the gas it so desperately needs.
He wins.
Many of Russia's pilots are inexperienced and some are just not very good
And I voted for “regime change” in 2005 in the UK because of what happened in Iraq, I also supported stop the war movements financially and by other methods. I had the chance to those things. Does your typical Russian watching state controlled media and banned from using websites which portray a differing view have the chance to do the same? So I resent some sanctimonious Russian preaching to me about not supporting the actions taken by his country in the interests of “denazifying” Ukraine - what a sick word that is coming from the mouth of the modern day Hitler.
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