Why don’t you try watching what he’s got to say first before rushing in and making yourself look foolish?Originally Posted by JamesWales
This has got noting to do with party politics, it’s about human decency.
| + Visit Cardiff FC for Latest News, Transfer Gossip, Fixtures and Match Results |
Why don’t you try watching what he’s got to say first before rushing in and making yourself look foolish?
This has got noting to do with party politics, it’s about human decency.
He's an awful shock jock doling out political crack to political crack addicts. I'd rather listen to someone who can consider things in an even handed manner; recognise an issue, understand the difficulties, try and come to serious conclusions.
So you’re just as bad as those you condemn for staying in their own convenient echo chambers then aren’t you despite all your talk of balance.
No, I listen to James O'Brien all the time. Thats how I know what he's like.
You can't stop yourself can you ?
She's a cnut
Forget she's a tory for a moment
The reason I asked was because there was a bbc article that showed the breakdown from the first half of 2022 and it was very different.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53734793
I am not willing to dabble in the express but the independent article is very carefully worded.
'Government officials believe around 60% of migrants making the crossing each day now are Albanian.'
And that appears to be based upon:
'More than 700 out of the record total of almost 1,300 migrants who were brought ashore on Monday were Albanian, the Daily Mail reported.'
And
'Lucy Moreton, from the ISU union, said: “ISU members have seen and reported this increase (of Albanian arrivals) over the last few months.
“Reports from the staff involved on Monday suggest the majority of those arriving were Albanian.'
Which is specific to one day and anecdotal. I would be interested to see how the official figures have changed over time.
So is this your justification now? Throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you are from Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan etc. and cross the channel illegally, you are deported to Rwanda without your claim for asylum being heard because Albanians are also doing it. Why not just assess their the strength of their claim and kick out the Albanians (because presumably they would fail), even send failed asylum seekers to Rwanda if you think that is a deterrent. That has to be better than kicking out genuine claimants because they entered illegally.
Fair play, at least you engage with the issues and don't just resort to throwing insults at politicians.
It seems to me that the asylum system does take a very disproportionate number of people from Albania, and that has perhaps risen dramatically in recent months. I agree with you, it would be very useful to see this stuff properly broken down, and I think the UK taxpayer probably has a right to see that.
I don't agree with throwing baby out with the bathwater, I agree with an asylum system that helps those most in need not those rich enough to receive help (although the articles above suggest that perhaps it is organised gangs paying the fees in some cases) or those already in a safe country. It is not what the system is designed for, it undermines faith in the process, it doesn't help the most needy and it allows organised criminals to exploit a system that is designed to help the most needy.
So what I am hearing is that the Albanians aren't so much of a problem, the issue is that everybody who crosses illegally had the means (either health or money) to cross illegally and therefore are not the most vulnerable? Would that be a fair way to sum up what you are saying?
I would suggest that yes, those people currently in France and with thousands in the bank are probably less likely to be those most in need, but that isn't for me to judge. I'd suggest the issues are as follows:
1 / The system is likely being abused by organised criminal gangs
2 / The system is not designing those most in need
3 / The system may even be used to recruit people to UK based gangs
4 / The UK is having to pay to house, home, process everyone, even if their claims are ultimately unsuccessful
5 / The system reduces public faith in the system (which is important IMO)
Something is up here. Albanians also form by far the largest number of foreign criminals in UK prisons, despite it being a small country. It's a democratic country with a socialist government. Why would so many people want to leave and come here?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...and-and-wales/
I'm gobsmacked. How can anyone denigrate James O' Brien? The world is becoming a dark place.
He's a hate filled bigot Dorcus. Am amazed you're a fan!
Great post and I would go even further by expunging the word sponge (excuse the alliteration) , scrounge is another. This is one of those many negatively judgemental words which have little base in reality.
You obviously lost the plot a long time ago.
Yeah, I want lessons in keeping it real from the guy who's contributed the following in one thread in barely 24 hours:
"An absolute pig of a woman"
"twisted, verminous, item of trash"
"ghoulish right wing freaks"
"certain individuals who disgrace the human race."
"contemptuous behaviour of a chancer appealing to the base nature of the lowest of the low."
The absolute state of it!
The truth often hurts. Maybe you should look for other pinups rather than creepy crawlies from the Netherworld.
Not really. The truth is liberating and illuminating. Endless rants, less so.
Who’s “truth” is this then?
It’s about time you explained where your daft views emanate from.
I note Suella is now against an India trade deal because it may lead to more (legal) movement of Indians to the UK and she says that’s not what people who voted for Brexit voted for. You what? Clearly, she’s come to the conclusion that Brexit voters are pretty thick. What’s the truth on this then, Jimbo?
Be fair, she’s a brilliant Labour recruiting sergeant.
In James’ world, it would appear that the man endorsing Martin Luther King’s I have a dream speech is the “bigot”, not the women who, in her own words, dreams and obsesses about sending people to Rwanda against their will. Think you’ve taken a wrong turn somewhere there Mr Wales.
i assume you believe in critical race theory, that renders MLK redundant, get with the program MLK has no place in modern politics
Don't worry I pray you shall be liberated and illuminated one day. Be ever hopeful, you may yet achieve redemption.
Yep, definitely not a cult..
He's spot on the tories are scum
The battle lines are drawn
Tories , bunch of complete cults
Makes me laugh when they play the caring party crap
Their whole reason for existing is to look after the rich and try and make other people rich so they can become selfish like them
Horrible gits
And of course only tory voters know the value of hard work
If you don't tory you don't work hard and if you are a member of the anti growth alliance you are dirty lefty hairy armpit bastards
lets all show the bigots and adopt a migrant , i cant myself because ,no room, my pets hate strangers, l'm vegan, it's a small town they prefer big city's,i'm looking after relatives , they would be away from their mates ,i only speak welsh so coms probs, the neighbours are problematic ,my husband isn't sure about the gay aspect, and so on but i'm sure the rest of us can and will adopt, and show the bigots how it's done.
So your argument is that we should be welcoming all of these desperate and suffering people, and should have a system that
Makes it easy for them to get to the UK from France, so that they don’t end up risking their lives crossing the channel?
I can get on board with that. Certainly beats cruella’s plan
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote