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Sir Patrick Vallance among scientists behind paper that stifled debate into the origins of the virus
Top scientists including Sir Patrick Vallance were warned that Covid-19 could have evolved in laboratory animals, but collaborated in a paper which shut down the lab leak theory, it has emerged.
The paper, “The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2,” published in Nature Medicine in March 2020, argued that a natural spillover event caused the pandemic, and was hugely instrumental in stifling debate into the origins of the virus.
But newly released emails from early 2020 show that in the weeks before publication the authors held lengthy discussions with experts, including Sir Patrick and Sir Jeremy Farrar, the head of the Wellcome Trust.
In those discussions, experts were advised that the unusual features seen in Covid-19 could have evolved in animals in a lab, as well as in the wild.
They were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of biosecurity.
Yet by the time the paper was published, all reference to biosecurity problems in Wuhan had been removed, and the authors argued that lab evolution of the virus was unlikely.
Questions have arisen around the drafting and formulation of the paper since its publication.
The lead author of the paper, Prof Kristian Andersen, of the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California, had earlier told colleagues that features of the virus looked as if they’d been engineered in a lab.
However, no mention of this was made in the paper.
'Important to stay open-minded'
Commenting on the new emails, which were released under Freedom of Information request, Dr Jeremy Farrar, the director of Wellcome, said: "It is important that we understand how all pathogens emerge so that we can prevent future pandemics.
“In my view, the scientific evidence continues to point to SARS-CoV-2 crossing from animals to humans as the most likely scenario.
“However, as the efforts to gather evidence continue, it is important to stay open-minded and work together internationally to understand the emergence of Covid and variant strains – to end this pandemic and reduce the risks of future events.”
A Government Office for Science spokesperson said: “The Government Chief Scientific Adviser ensures that policies and decisions are informed by the best scientific evidence.
“The GCSA promotes full transparency and an open exchange of ideas and scientific opinion as the email exchange reflects.”
The emails were released following an FOI request from James Tobias, a freelance journalist.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ks-told-might/
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Lockdowns are a control tool and they will be back here soon enough.Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
I had a feeling this thread wouldn't gain much traction among the natural origin/wet market narrative pushers among us. They certainly have a history of not admitting to the things they get wrong.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckD6qL76uA
I hope this guy isn't correct, but he usually is. That's quite a steep curve he is predicting.
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Wales has been locked down and stunted for growth for 20 years now under Labour.
[QUOTE=life on mars;5367616]Wales has been locked down and stunted for growth for 20 years now under Labour
They won’t work next time though….
where’s sludge eh?
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'I'm done!' WH press secretary loses it when reporter dares ask Dr. Fauci about COVID-19 origins — then another reporter steps in
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The White House daily press briefing spiraled out of control on Tuesday when a reporter dared ask Dr. Anthony Fauci whether he has investigated the origins of COVID-19.
What happened?
As Fauci and Dr. Ashish Jha, the White House COVID response coordinator, were answering questions at the press briefing, Daily Caller White House correspondent Diana Glebova attempted to ask Fauci what he has done to investigate the origins of the COVID pandemic.
The picture is becoming clearer by the day, or at least for me it is. The absent voices, some of whom were the most vocal on here, need to take a good look in the mirror.
Most people tend to be vocal when it’s a majority opinion , it’s much harder to offer a opinion when you may be in a minority.
If the opinion changes then the same people will pivot.
Its not healthy talking to oneself
Forget that , what’s your view on the alleged misinformation given out my senior government officials?
They haven't worked in China, even after three years. And now .....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-63776816
But necessary when you're desperate for attention and so many people have stopped giving it to you.
The big hitters have arrived
Desperate for attention… yes this is the place I’d come for it
Fine, you don’t have to have the same opinion as many others but try and be mature about it there’s a good boy.
Clearly,you’re still hypnotised by it all are you
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I didn't see any opinion, although I quite excited at the thought that we might get one!Desperate for attention… yes this is the place I’d come for it
Fine, you don’t have to have the same opinion as many others but try and be mature about it there’s a good boy.
Clearly,you’re still hypnotised by it all are you
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More info on those emails..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc9YHBXad5o
https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...urce-Documents
3) The Wuhan bio-weapons facility has been the Covid source elephant in the room but there has been yet another coverup by the usual suspects. Author WalesBales
This was No 3 on the list of source documents you were unable to find last time we went around this bhouy. Given the picture is getting clearer by the day, at least for you, do you have any source documents now to shift the dial from the probability it was not man made?
It's been a long 8 months since Gluey posted his "sourced" view about the genesis of the Y2K, it's just like a cold Covid virus. Still no sign of the source document but as he said very early this morning that some of it was in the very early days when we didn't know the virus was engineered in a lab, and this changes things quite a bit. I would presume he's now in a position to post the proof at last.
Any further forward on the proof that the virus was engineered in a lab anyone? I understand that Gluey "knows" but he's gone all shy for some reason.
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