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Thread: O/T winter fuel allowance

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    O/T winter fuel allowance

    Not sure if posters are aware of this Welsh scheme for those in need.

    https://gov.wales/wales-fuel-support-scheme-2022-2023

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    We got turned down for that.
    My daughter receives PIP but got turned down because her name isn't on the bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    We got turned down for that.
    My daughter receives PIP but got turned down because her name isn't on the bills.
    Your daughter is a qualifying person .....entitled to help .......if she is on PIP ......

    As far as I know she doesn't have to be on the bill as the bill payer

    Did you check this out ?

    It might be worth contacting the CAB

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Your daughter is a qualifying person .....entitled to help .......if she is on PIP ......

    As far as I know she doesn't have to be on the bill as the bill payer

    Did you check this out ?

    It might be worth contacting the CAB
    It says that 'Applicants must be responsible for paying the energy bills at the property ' - she isn't.

    The letter we received says there is no right of appeal.

    There are plenty of people in more need of the payment than us, so we're not too bothered. Would have been nice though.

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    We got turned down for that.
    My daughter receives PIP but got turned down because her name isn't on the bills.
    She doesn’t have to be on the bill, if she’s on PIP and it’s her home , you will qualify

    Which local council are you?

    If a householder, or their partner who is liable for the fuel costs does not receive any of the qualifying benefits, the householder may be eligible for a payment if they have a qualifying person living with them.

    A qualifying person must meet all of the following:

    occupy the householder’s home as their primary residence
    are a dependent child or another adult living with the householder, or their partner
    they receive 1 of the following benefits:
    Attendance Allowance
    Disability Living Allowance
    Personal Independence Payment
    Armed Forces Independence Payment
    Constant Attendance Allowance
    War Pension Mobility Supplement
    Applicants must also be responsible for paying the energy bills for the property.

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    It says that 'Applicants must be responsible for paying the energy bills at the property ' - she isn't.

    The letter we received says there is no right of appeal.

    There are plenty of people in more need of the payment than us, so we're not too bothered. Would have been nice though.
    It says that your daughter can be an applicant and her PIP award certainly qualifies her

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    It says that 'Applicants must be responsible for paying the energy bills at the property ' - she isn't.

    The letter we received says there is no right of appeal.

    There are plenty of people in more need of the payment than us, so we're not too bothered. Would have been nice though.
    Yes but you ARE responsible for paying the bill ......your daughter has a health condition which is why she's on PIP .......so that enables YOU to be the applicant for the fuel payment

    Get on to the CAB or Riverside Advice Centre in Cardiff

    Bluebirds !

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    It says that 'Applicants must be responsible for paying the energy bills at the property ' - she isn't.

    The letter we received says there is no right of appeal.

    There are plenty of people in more need of the payment than us, so we're not too bothered. Would have been nice though.
    I’d put another online claim in or call which ever local authority you are with and say you’re not appealing , you pointing out an assessment mistake and want it corrected, no need to go to CAB

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    She doesn’t have to be on the bill, if she’s on PIP and it’s her home , you will qualify

    Which local council are you?

    If a householder, or their partner who is liable for the fuel costs does not receive any of the qualifying benefits, the householder may be eligible for a payment if they have a qualifying person living with them.

    A qualifying person must meet all of the following:

    occupy the householder’s home as their primary residence
    are a dependent child or another adult living with the householder, or their partner
    they receive 1 of the following benefits:
    Attendance Allowance
    Disability Living Allowance
    Personal Independence Payment
    Armed Forces Independence Payment
    Constant Attendance Allowance
    War Pension Mobility Supplement
    Applicants must also be responsible for paying the energy bills for the property.
    Cheers.
    It does seem odd that the scheme excludes some people who are on a qualifying benefit, but there we go.
    I think they may have cottoned on to the fact that I like Alex Scotts punditry and turned us down for that reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    I think they may have cottoned on to the fact that I like Alex Scotts punditry and turned us down for that reason.
    They think it's all over, it isn't yet

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    We got turned down for that.
    My daughter receives PIP but got turned down because her name isn't on the bills.
    Just sent you a PM. If you're in Cardiff, I may be able to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Velvet View Post
    Just sent you a PM. If you're in Cardiff, I may be able to help.
    You have a reply.

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    thanks hadnt seen this

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    I'm not in Cardiff,however expecting the same negative response.. My partner is on low rate mobility and doing a uni degree.
    It's a bit of a con. Only one person in a household needs to be on a bill as said. I told the council my partner pays half the bills. I haven't had a reply yet.
    She paid 35 years national insurance stamps, but got turned down for sick pay as the DWP took my income in to account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    I'm not in Cardiff,however expecting the same negative response.. My partner is on low rate mobility and doing a uni degree.
    It's a bit of a con. Only one person in a household needs to be on a bill as said. I told the council my partner pays half the bills. I haven't had a reply yet.
    She paid 35 years national insurance stamps, but got turned down for sick pay as the DWP took my income in to account.
    Did she claim the right benefit.?

    Sounds like she may have claimed a means tested benefit.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-styl...port-allowance

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    I'm not in Cardiff,however expecting the same negative response.. My partner is on low rate mobility and doing a uni degree.
    It's a bit of a con. Only one person in a household needs to be on a bill as said. I told the council my partner pays half the bills. I haven't had a reply yet.
    She paid 35 years national insurance stamps, but got turned down for sick pay as the DWP took my income in to account.
    If your wife is on the council tax bill / is her main residence then she will qualify as she gets DLA

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    I'm not in Cardiff,however expecting the same negative response.. My partner is on low rate mobility and doing a uni degree.
    It's a bit of a con. Only one person in a household needs to be on a bill as said. I told the council my partner pays half the bills. I haven't had a reply yet.
    She paid 35 years national insurance stamps, but got turned down for sick pay as the DWP took my income in to account.
    CAB mate

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Cheers.
    It does seem odd that the scheme excludes some people who are on a qualifying benefit, but there we go.
    I think they may have cottoned on to the fact that I like Alex Scotts punditry and turned us down for that reason.
    You may be able to sort it out without any outside advice but the CAB and Riverside Advice Centre can act on your behalf and usually sort it out with a phonecall or E mail

    It's what they do

    Hope you get it sorted

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You may be able to sort it out without any outside advice but the CAB and Riverside Advice Centre can act on your behalf and usually sort it out with a phonecall or E mail

    It's what they do

    Hope you get it sorted
    No need to waste CAB’s resources at this stage. The person affected in this tread just needs to call the council and point out an assessment error, which can happen from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    No need to waste CAB’s resources at this stage. The person affected in this tread just needs to call the council and point out an assessment error, which can happen from time to time.
    Well that's your opinion

    If the poor sod gets a load of grief and hassle from someone on the end of the phone then plan b etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well that's your opinion

    If the poor sod gets a load of grief and hassle from someone on the end of the phone then plan b etc
    It’s fact not an opinion , hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    It’s fact not an opinion , hope that helps.
    What's a fact ?

    That this fella needs some advice regarding the Welsh govt support ?

    No doubt about that

    Do you work in consumer and benefits advice then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    No need to waste CAB’s resources at this stage. The person affected in this tread just needs to call the council and point out an assessment error, which can happen from time to time.
    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well that's your opinion

    If the poor sod gets a load of grief and hassle from someone on the end of the phone then plan b etc
    Thanks for your concern both but there's no need to fall out over it. The matter is in hand.

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    What's a fact ?

    That this fella needs some advice regarding the Welsh govt support ?

    No doubt about that

    Do you work in consumer and benefits advice then ?
    No, but I can read legislation and clearly there has been an error, so a simple phone call or email will suffice in this instance.

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    Re: O/T winter fuel allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Thanks for your concern both but there's no need to fall out over it. The matter is in hand.
    Excellent

    What are doing to rectify the situation ?

    It would be nice if someone else gets rejected with this funding

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