Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

[2b2bdoo]

Do you think either Coleman or Giggs would have left Bale and/or Ramsey out of the starting line up fit any of the three games? I don’t think they would have.

I think Giggs certainly wouldn’t have left Bale out if needed. I understand why Page started him in the first game but for him to play every minute of the first two games, was odd management.

[blue lewj]

I can't stand Jason Cundy but he makes a fair point. Qatar, who wouldn't even be involved if they weren't hosting, managed to grab a point more than us.

1 goal from a pelanty, that's it. Not a single outfield goal in nearly 300 minutes of open play.

Page is not the man to take us forward.
All this nonsense of how proud we should be etc... Proud of what exactly? Piss poor tactics, selections, performances and results?

I'm still only just recovering from yesterday, had to go and "have a lie down" for nearly 24 hours after that shower of shite.

Qatar didn't get a point more than us.