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    China

    People are upset because some people were burnt to death after being welded inside their apartments during an extended lockdown.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/26/c...hnk/index.html

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    What do the lockdown fanatics think? Was it a price worth paying for the greater good?

    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...und-the-world/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    What do the lockdown fanatics think? Was it a price worth paying for the greater good?

    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...und-the-world/
    Who are these “lockdown fanatics”? Are there still people out there saying we should all lockdown? If there are, I agree - they’re fanatics. If, on the other hand, you mean those who could understand why the decision to lock down was made at various times during 2020 and early 2021 when Covid was killing millions and there were no vaccines, then I think you’re talking rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Who are these “lockdown fanatics”? Are there still people out there saying we should all lockdown? If there are, I agree - they’re fanatics. If, on the other hand, you mean those who could understand why the decision to lock down was made at various times during 2020 and early 2021 when Covid was killing millions and there were no vaccines, then I think you’re talking rubbish.
    What about the non-covid excess deaths that keep on going up? Any thoughts on that? And what about all the deaths "with covid" that were recorded as covid deaths, even though it wasn't the primary cause?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    What about the non-covid excess deaths that keep on going up? Any thoughts on that? And what about all the deaths "with covid" that were recorded as covid deaths, even though it wasn't the primary cause?
    None of that makes any difference to what I said, I suppose that makes me a lockdown fanatic in your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    None of that makes any difference to what I said, I suppose that makes me a lockdown fanatic in your eyes.
    Well, some people think there may be a lot more excess/wrongly attributed deaths compared to direct covid deaths, so it is surprising that you consider it to be irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Well, some people think there may be a lot more excess/wrongly attributed deaths compared to direct covid deaths, so it is surprising that you consider it to be irrelevant.
    All I’m talking about in this thread is your use of the term “lockdown fanatics”. You didn’t start this thread to talk about excess deaths did you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Who are these “lockdown fanatics”? Are there still people out there saying we should all lockdown? If there are, I agree - they’re fanatics. If, on the other hand, you mean those who could understand why the decision to lock down was made at various times during 2020 and early 2021 when Covid was killing millions and there were no vaccines, then I think you’re talking rubbish.
    Covid was downgraded from a High Consequence Infectious Disease in March 2020

    https://journal.rajeshtaylor.com/cov...in-march-2020/

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-con...-diseases-hcid

    Chris Whitty the CMO also advised that Covid to 80% of the population would have no symptoms, or mild , or moderate, and a small minority would have severe symptoms

    Clearly this knowledge was in the public domain.

    Supposedly, you can:

    1. Have this virus and have a wide range of symptoms

    2. Don't have this virus but have the same symptoms

    3. Have this virus and have no symptoms

    And all these symptoms existed before SARS-Cov2, obviously caused by other things.

    This is not 2+2=4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Covid was downgraded from a High Consequence Infectious Disease in March 2020

    https://journal.rajeshtaylor.com/cov...in-march-2020/

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-con...-diseases-hcid

    Chris Whitty the CMO also advised that Covid to 80% of the population would have no symptoms, or mild , or moderate, and a small minority would have severe symptoms

    Clearly this knowledge was in the public domain.

    Supposedly, you can:

    1. Have this virus and have a wide range of symptoms

    2. Don't have this virus but have the same symptoms

    3. Have this virus and have no symptoms

    And all these symptoms existed before SARS-Cov2, obviously caused by other things.

    This is not 2+2=4.
    None of that tells me who the lockdown fanatics are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    None of that tells me who the lockdown fanatics are.
    Many high profile and eminent personalities were asking for harder , longer lockdowns , I’m sure you know who they were at the time. Many many people agreed with them at the time as well.

    My son suffered with this personal development and education and it was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Covid was downgraded from a High Consequence Infectious Disease in March 2020

    https://journal.rajeshtaylor.com/cov...in-march-2020/

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-con...-diseases-hcid

    Chris Whitty the CMO also advised that Covid to 80% of the population would have no symptoms, or mild , or moderate, and a small minority would have severe symptoms

    Clearly this knowledge was in the public domain.

    Supposedly, you can:

    1. Have this virus and have a wide range of symptoms

    2. Don't have this virus but have the same symptoms

    3. Have this virus and have no symptoms

    And all these symptoms existed before SARS-Cov2, obviously caused by other things.

    This is not 2+2=4.


    I forgot to add

    The CDC, on the other hand, says "covid is clinically indistinguishable from influenza" and that a "test" is the only way to know if you have "it."

    When you know the "tests" are not tests at all………..:hehe

    Work it out for yourself :

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    None of that tells me who the lockdown fanatics are.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...crumbling.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Many high profile and eminent personalities were asking for harder , longer lockdowns , I’m sure you know who they were at the time. Many many people agreed with them at the time as well.

    My son suffered with this personal development and education and it was wrong.
    Did the lockdowns even work, and the vaccines for that matter?

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    here;s an interesting graph showing how Sweden fared in all this regarding lock downs


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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    here;s an interesting graph showing how Sweden fared in all this regarding lock downs
    Sweden ����

    ���� No lockdowns
    ���� No school closures
    ���� No mask mandates

    Sweden had the lowest overall cumulative excess deaths in countries analysed by the OECD during the pandemic era from March 2020 to June 2022. pic.twitter.com/nbzI1veo8y
    — James Melville (@JamesMelville) November 27, 2022
    Yeah, I wouldn't be defending them as though they were a huge success. I think it's time for a public enquiry and let everybody have a voice, not just those who were controlling the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    here;s an interesting graph showing how Sweden fared in all this regarding lock downs

    Compared to Norway, Sweden has 0.2% fewer excess deaths across the past 24 months but over 300% more Covid deaths per million.
    Sweden also has a higher Covid death rate than 11 of the 29 countries it’s compared to.

    Excluding micro states Sweden also has the best vaccination rate in Europe I believe. Make of that what you will.

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    Anyway, back to China, I can't see President Xi taking a hands-off approach for too long.

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    china back in the news again this week regarding covid

    lots of worldwide news outlets concerned over the new variant that;s spreading like wild fire in the country .Reports yesterday of 2 planes arriving in Milan from china with the new variant found with half the passengers test positive

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YXTmnyiiQE

    surely we should be shutting down all flights back and forth to China right now ?

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    What’s happened to WB? Did the WEF silence him?

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    Re: China

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    china back in the news again this week regarding covid

    lots of worldwide news outlets concerned over the new variant that;s spreading like wild fire in the country .Reports yesterday of 2 planes arriving in Milan from china with the new variant found with half the passengers test positive

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YXTmnyiiQE

    surely we should be shutting down all flights back and forth to China right now ?
    Yeah they were quick enough to lockdown for 3 years, I wouldn’t let anyone from China in here. Would they have a different variant again to us? I guess having not been exposed to anything since 2020 the Chinese population will suffer some? Is it Omicron or the much more severe Delta? Not much vaccination going on there either i read…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Yeah they were quick enough to lockdown for 3 years, I wouldn’t let anyone from China in here. Would they have a different variant again to us? I guess having not been exposed to anything since 2020 the Chinese population will suffer some? Is it Omicron or the much more severe Delta? Not much vaccination going on there either i read…..
    well here;s Dr John thoughts regarding the latest wave of covid that;s taken over the country the last few days .Its the Chinese new year soon around the end of January i think where millions of people travel within /back and forth into china .Personally I would stop all travel in and out of china for the next 6 weeks

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCMj_ZGNhaU

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    just announced by the UK government

    BREAKING: UK to require negative coronavirus test for passengers arriving from China

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    just announced by the UK government

    BREAKING: UK to require negative coronavirus test for passengers arriving from China
    But the tests are not accurate so what’s the point ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    But the tests are not accurate so what’s the point ?
    as mentioned the best policy is to cancel all flights in and out of China across the world for the next 6 weeks

    I see a pattern emerging here regarding with china now France following suit

    BREAKING: France to require negative coronavirus test for passengers arriving from China

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    What’s happened to WB? Did the WEF silence him?
    I think he is undergoing treatment on his index finger after he was struck down with the F5 virus

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